Now *THIS* is disturbing...

[dhyatt]

I just received the following email to my CP address:
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Dear Reader

Do you know that the Germans, Dutch, English, French, Italians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Kurds, Iranians
and Northern Indians are from the same racial stock? Sounds overwhelming does it not, and perhaps
even inconsequential? You may be thinking "well, even if it's true, who cares!!!"

You can not be blamed for that kind of a reaction. We have recently set up a whole new website, and
a unique one of it's kind with the soul purpose of eliminating misconceptions and ignorance. Our aim
is to promote knowledge which you most likely will never learn in schools, universities and colleges!

Visit http://www.aryanrace.net and you will find out how the "real" Aryan race originated in the East,
and spread to the West, and how the "Western Aryans" have, for centuries tried to control "Eastern
Aryans", and why have they been doing this? AryanRace.Net answers all of your questions!

Though the website work is not fully completed yet, you may still feel free to check out the 'front page'
and feel free to send our team here at AryanRace.Net an email. We would love to hear from you.

Now is your chance to find out what was the inspiration for Hitler behind his idea of the 'Aryan' race,
and where he fabricated the 'Swastika' from. Wise people agree that in order to excel in the future,
one must understand the past. If human beings are to unite and act as one race, what needs to be
done is each race must understand each other's ethnic cultures and learn to appreciate the diversity rather
than to try and come up with unrealistic theories about "all humans being 'one' because we all come from
AFRICA". What really needs to be done is we must understand our ethnic differences. By doing so,
intolerance and ignorance will naturally go away. Just check out our website and you'll understand
what we mean by all this.

Looking forward to hearing your input.

R.Shelley,
Marketing Manager - AryanRace.Net
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Just lovely ain't it? I can't believe these idiots are even still around....

[kellyc]

Yep and that they even have a "marketing manager" is something else too. Another whacko for the files.

Kelly

[Brent]

Disturbing indeed. I don't think they would actually look forward to hearing my input, not that I would dignify this by sending any. :P

[Don]

Like I'm supposed to be impressed by a bunch of hate-crime psychos who can't even get a website working, but encourage you to check it out anyways?

[Wuptdo]

Wow, look at how communism has changed:

From CNN, today (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/29/che.guevara.reut/index.html)

8O 8O :roll:

Wuptdo 8)

[Wuptdo]

Check this out:

Flight 93 Memorial (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05251/567702.stm)

Now, who else uses a "cresent" as their symbol?

IMHO, this is someone's idea of a sick joke. (Where folks to PC to mention this or maybe they were afraid to offend the artist?)

Wuptdo :evil:

[Wuptdo]

If there are not enough problems in America today:

Mice Infected With Bubonic Plague Missing (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/15/D8CKQJFO1.html)

Geez.......

Ok, if anyone watches the MSM news tonight, let us know which story gets more coverage: 1) Mice with Plague, or 2) GWB wants to go to the bathroom.

Wuptdo B-)

[bobo]

Wuptdo, haven't you heard the latest national new flash? Gov. Jeb Bush's son was arrested for public intoxication and resisting arrest. :roll:

[Don]

Wuptdo, haven't you heard the latest national new flash? Gov. Jeb Bush's son was arrested for public intoxication and resisting arrest. :roll:

Big deal....like that's never happened to anyone here too right? :wink: :wink:

[Wuptdo]

Yeah, this one is sick and strange:

Not for folks with a weak stomach (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16966858-23109,00.html)

:x :x

Wuptdo :twisted:

[bobo]

Yeah, I guess six weeks is really sending out a strong message! I don't even care that much for cats, but still think the lady should have received a $5,000 fine and one year in jail! :?

[Wuptdo]

Noted local educator, Dr. Kamau Kambon was quoted on C-Span:
WHAT KAMBON SAID

'And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we're not thinking about a solution to the problem. ... And the one idea is: How are we going to exterminate white people, because that, in my estimation, is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem. [A few in the audience applaud tepidly.] Now I don't care whether you clap or not, but I'm saying to you that we need to solve this problem, because they are going to kill us.'

Copied from the N&O website, 22 Oct 2005


Do you agree or disagree with Dr. Kambon?

I disagree.

What is really sad, is that this story is getting national attention, and the N&O only writes one story, and one Barry Saunders column. Saunders column is probably one of his worse I have seen written, as he seems to be more focused on putting the spotlight on William Bennett's remarks than what Dr. Kambon said. Me thinks, the N&O's double-standard has reared its ugly head - again.

Wuptdo B-)

[DarylB]

Noted local educator, Dr. Kamau Kambon was quoted on C-Span:
WHAT KAMBON SAID

'And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we're not thinking about a solution to the problem. ... And the one idea is: How are we going to exterminate white people, because that, in my estimation, is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem. [A few in the audience applaud tepidly.] Now I don't care whether you clap or not, but I'm saying to you that we need to solve this problem, because they are going to kill us.'

Copied from the N&O website, 22 Oct 2005


Do you agree or disagree with Dr. Kambon?

I disagree.

What is really sad, is that this story is getting national attention, and the N&O only writes one story, and one Barry Saunders column. Saunders column is probably one of his worse I have seen written, as he seems to be more focused on putting the spotlight on William Bennett's remarks than what Dr. Kambon said. Me thinks, the N&O's double-standard has reared its ugly head - again.

Wuptdo B-)

It may call itself the News and Observer, but in reality, the Red Rooster is well aware of its history of advocacy, and is still the same as it was when it was first purchased as a propaganda tool by Josephus Daniels for the advancement of the Democratic Party, and the election of FDR...I gave up my subscription to the Nuisance and Disturber long ago when my need for wrapping fish came to a close....

[Wuptdo]

When was the last time any of us saw a "cost-of-livinig" pay increase? These folks just got one!

Congress Helps Self to $3,100 Pay Raise (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802165_pf.html)

Your elected officials in Washington, looking out for you! :evil:

I wonder if the CTC will vote itself a payraise this year?

Wuptdo B-)

[ChrisD]

Former U.S. Attorney General Will Help Saddam

POSTED: 11:08 am EST November 27, 2005
UPDATED: 12:18 pm EST November 27, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark arrived in Baghdad on Sunday, airport officials said, apparently to aid in Saddam's defense………read more……. http://www.nbc17.com/news/5412181/detail.html



A little background on Ramsey Clark



THE MYSTERIOUS RAMSEY CLARK:
STALINIST DUPE OR RULING-CLASS SPOOK?
By Manny Goldstein

Take a close look and there is something downright suspicious about former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, now the darling of certain sectors of the radical left. His journey has taken him from the heights of federal power to outer orbits of the political fringe. In the process, he has seemingly transformed from a shill for the most corrupt elements of the US elites to a shill for any foreign despot who claims to oppose the US elites. Who is Ramsey Clark really working for?
Dynasty of Mediocrity
Ramsey Clark was born to power. In 1945, the Clark family made its leap from Dallas to DC when Ramsey's dad Tom Clark, a lobbyist for Texas oil interests, was appointed Attorney General by President Harry Truman. In his Texas days, the politically ambitious elder Clark was cultivated as a useful connection by New Orleans mafia kingpin Carlos Marcello, and many feared Clark's new job would afford organized crime access to higher levels of power.
AG Clark was repeatedly mired in corruption scandals. In 1945, he was accused of taking a bribe to fix a war profiteering case. In 1947, after he had four convicted Chicago mob bosses sprung from prison before their terms were complete, Congress appointed a committee to investigate--and was effectively roadblocked by Tom's refusal to hand over parole records.
Truman admitted to a biographer that "Tom Clark was my biggest mistake." But he insisted: "It isn't so much that he's a bad man. It's just that he's such a dumb son of a bitch."
AG Tom Clark played along with the post-war anti-communist hysteria, approving federal wiretaps on Alger Hiss, the State Department official accused being a Soviet mole. In 1949, he moved over to the Supreme Court. Carlos Marcello biographer John Davis asserts that the kingpin continued to funnel money to Clark when he sat on the high court.
Tom stepped down from the high court when young Ramsey was appointed attorney general by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1967. Ramsey was likely appointed precisely because he was Tom's son. And not because LBJ was impressed with Tom, but just the opposite: Johnson knew that Ramsey's appointment would maneuver Tom into stepping down. This cleared the way for the appointment of Thurgood Marshall, a comparative moral and intellectual titan who was strategic to the White House's effort to buy peace with the civil rights movement.
AG Ramsey got into a famous showdown with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover when he attempted to block the Director's wiretaps of Martin Luther King Jr.--apparently the first stirrings of Ramsey's conscience. Hoover, considering Clark a spineless "jellyfish," went over his head and ordered the wiretaps without the AG's approval. However, Clark later told Curt Gentry, author of a critical biography of Hoover, that the FBI director had "very strong human qualities" and "was not at all evil by any means. He really believed deeply in integrity, as he defined it, as he saw it."
Despite his unwillingness to approve the snooping on King (who, after all, had been a guest at the Kennedy White House), Clark was complicit with Hoover's COINTELPRO. Following the 1967 riots in Newark and Detroit, he directed the FBI to investigate whether the unrest was the result of some "scheme or conspiracy." He instructed Hoover to develop "sources or informants in black nationalist organizations, SNCC and other less publicized groups." The result was Hoover's extensive "ghetto informant program."
In 1968, Clark prosecuted Dr. Benjamin Spock for advocating draft resistance. "As late as 1968, while campaigning for Lyndon Johnson in Wisconsin, Clark was shouting at anti-war protesters to take their grievances to Hanoi rather than Washington," wrote John B. Judis in a 1991 expose on Clark in The New Republic.
Clark also dutifully backed the official findings that Lee Harvey Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan each acted alone in the assassination of the Kennedy brothers.
But when LBJ lost in '68, Clark was iced from his farewell luncheon. The humiliated White House isolated him as King's Resurrection City protesters occupied the DC mall and Republican candidate Richard Nixon baited the AG for undermining "law and order." He had become a convenient whipping boy for both parties.
Leftward, Ho
An embittered casualty of the '60s, Clark assumed a leftist posture after leaving the Justice Department. He became the lawyer for anti-war protestor Philip Berrigan, headed a private probe into the FBI killings of Black Panthers Fred Hampton and Mark Clark, and travelled to Vietnam to condemn the bombing.
In a 1974 bid for Senate in New York, he played the centrist in the Democratic primary, with Bella Abzug on the left and Daniel Moynihan on the right. Moynihan won. Clark, now 46, appeared to burn his bridges with the establishment at this point.
In June 1980, with America mesmerized by the Iran hostage crisis, he joined a forum on "Crimes of America" in Tehran--the first of many such junkets. The '80s saw him globetrotting to schmooze with any dictator who happened to be on the White House ****-list. After the US bombing of Libya in 1986, he met with Col. Moammar Qadaffi in Tripoli. He went to Grenada to advise Bernard and Phyllis Coard, leaders of the clique accused of murdering Maurice Bishop, who were facing treason charges.
Things started to smell really fishy in 1989, when Clark represented ultra-right cult-master Lyndon LaRouche and six cohorts on conspiracy and mail fraud charges. The LaRouchies had been bilking their naive followers of their savings by getting them to cough up their credit card numbers. Clark (who had been silent when the real COINTELPRO was conducted under his watch at the Justice Department) now charged that the LaRouche case was an "outgrowth" of COINTELPRO. He said the case was manufactured by LaRouche's "powerful enemies within the establishment" who targeted the cult because of its crusade "to combat the traffic in so-called 'recreational drugs'...and the practice of usury."
Clark was echoing the standard line of the LaRouche organization, which paradoxically pleads government persecution while boasting of its connections to the intelligence establishment (uniquely merging paranoia with delusions of grandeur). In fact, the cult has exchanged information with the FBI, and farmed out its "intelligence" services to Panama's Gen. Manuel Noriega. LaRouche's 1970s campaigns for a "War on Drugs" and space-based missile defense eerily predicted Reagan-era programs.
Clark couldn't keep his client from a conviction and brief prison term. But Clark's relationship with LaRouche went beyond legal representation to actual advocacy. Researcher Chip Berlet, a watchdog on radical right groups, told Judis that Clark's brief was a "political polemic."
In June 1990, a LaRouche front organization, the Schiller Institute, flew Clark to a cult-organized conference in Copenhagen. His speech there claimed the US government had moved against LaRouche because he was "a danger to the system," and decried that he was a victim of "vilification." The speech was printed in full by the LaRouchie New Federalist propaganda rag.
Clark also represented PLO leaders in a suit brought by the family of Leon Klinghoffer, the elderly vacationer who was shot and thrown overboard from the hijacked Achille Lauro cruise-ship by renegade Palestinian terrorists in 1986.
Another Clark client was Karl Linnas, an ex-Nazi concentration camp guard in Estonia (where he had overseen the murder of some 12,000 resistence fighters and Jews), who was being deported from the US to the USSR to face war crimes charges. Clark again lost the case, but again went to bat for his client in the public arena, questioning the need to prosecute Nazis "forty years after some god-awful crime they're alleged to have committed."
The Devil's Pact
In August 1990, two months after his return from the LaRouche conference in Copenhagen, with US troops mobilizing to Saudi Arabia, Clark accepted an invitation to lead the National Coalition to Stop US Intervention in the Middle East. This invitation had been extended by members of an orthodox Stalinist sect, the Workers World Party (WWP). Clark had finally found a new home. The Clark-WWP alliance has lasted to this day.
A brief look at the doctrinaire sect's history: WWP is the brainchild of Sam Marcy, intellectual guru at the party's helm until his death in 1998. In 1956, Marcy led the faction in the Socialist Workers Party that supported the Soviet invasion of Hungary, attacking the popular uprising and general strike there as "counter-revolutionary." In 1959, the Marcy clique broke from the Trotskyist SWP to found the more Stalinist WWP. The new group wasted little time in cheering on the brutal Chinese repression of the indigenous culture in Tibet that year (which sent the Dalai Lama and 80,000 refugees fleeing into exile).
Vying with SWP and other parties for top dog position on the radical left, WWP always maintained a front group to suck in neophytes. During the Vietnam era this was Youth Against War & Fascism (YAWF). In the Reagan-Bush era it was People's Anti-War Mobilization (PAM)--which would be the operative group in the National Coalition in 1990.
With glasnost, WWP supported the Kremlin hard-liners who resisted Gorbachev's reforms and disarmament moves. Insisting that China remained a "workers state," WWP supported Deng Xiaoping in the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, again attacking the protesting students and workers as "counter-revolutionaries." In 1991, WWP supported the KGB coup against Gorbachev.
Yet WWP also wooed the Democratic party, supporting Jesse Jackson's presidential bid in 1984. In New York, WWP made alliances with the left wing of the Democrats to establish a foothold in key trade unions.
WWP cadre Gavriella Gemma became a secretary in Clark's New York law office in 1977. In his New Republic piece, Judis suggests that Clark fell under her spell and was won over to the WWP. When David McReynolds of the War Resisters League met with Clark in 1990 to warn him that WWP was "using him," Clark refused to listen, constantly referring to what "Gavriella said."
With Clark as the figurehead and PAM/WWP at the helm, the National Coalition provoked a split in the movement against Operation Desert Storm through its refusal to condemn Saddam Hussein or Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. The other established anti-war groups (War Resisters League, CISPES, SANE/Freeze, National Organization for Women, etc.) formed the rival National Campaign for Peace in the Middle East, which condemned both Bush and Saddam. Soft-peddling their pro-Saddam line, WWP's National Coalition won endorsements from celebrities like Spike Lee and Casey Kasem, sucking in numbers even after the split. The two groups held separate marches on Washington in January 1991, allowing the media to portray a divided movement.
WWP went to extreme lengths to maintain control of the National Coalition. At an April 1991 protest in New York City, WWP thugs attacked a Lower East Side squatter contingent and ejected them from the rally for refusing to take down their unapproved homemade banners. WWPers then called in the police and had the squatters arrested (SHADOW April/May 1991).
In November 1990, Clark flew to Baghdad to meet with Saddam, who allowed him to return with a few hostages. In February, with the bombs falling, Clark was in Basra, Iraq's southern port, witnessing the destruction. But his consistent failure to complain about Saddam's regime made it clear he was there at its invitation.
With Clark's name-recognition and homespun, avuncular image, WWP had the opportunity to form a new front group to win over naive liberals. This was the International Action Center (IAC), which remains the top vehicle for Clark's ego and WWP's play for hegemony over the fragmented remnants of the left.
IAC/WWP's politics went from bad to worse as Yugoslavia descended into chaos. It soon became obvious that Clark's legal work now closely followed the WWP line. In 1992, Radovan Karadzic, the leader of the Bosnian Serbs, was served with federal subpoenas when he touched down in New York for UN meetings. The National Organization for Women and the Center for Constitutional Rights, acting on behalf of Bosnian refugee women, were charging him with ordering mass rape and war crimes. Clark, of course, immediately came forward to represent Karadzic. Clark also made junkets to Serb-occupied Bosnia to schmooze with Karadzic (as did various Russian neo-fascists like Vladimir Zhirinovsky).
International Action Center leaflets engaged in blatant historical revisionism over Serb war crimes, portraying them as lies perpetrated by an imperialist conspiracy.
"What about all those reports of 'Serbian atrocities'?" asked an IAC leaflet in 1993, and then answered its own question: "Before the bombs can be dropped the lies must be told." It then went on to cite fabricated atrocities which the Kuwaiti regime's paid PR hacks had attributed to the Iraqi occupation forces, without offering a shred of evidence that the reports of Serb rape camps and "ethnic cleansing" were similarly fabricated. Note the subtly evil propaganda. Opposing NATO bombing is one thing. Calling the reports of mass rape and ethnic cleansing "lies" is quite another. This "anti-war" propaganda is on the same repugnant level as right-wing Holocaust Revisionism.
IAC/WWP embraces what is now called in Europe the "Red-Brown Alliance"--the notion of a left-fascist alliance against the West. This alliance is most advanced in Russia where neo-Stalinists and neo-Czarists have joined to oppose Yeltsin (seen as a stooge of the West). In an echo of the 1939 Hitler-Stalin Pact, former communists and anarchists in Russia now work with figures like Zhirinovsky, who have themselves sought alliances with German neo-Nazis. Like Clark and WWP, these Russian extremists have avidly rooted for the Serb armies throughout the wars in former Yugoslavia.
The "Red-Brown Alliance" was seen on the streets of New York during the 1999 NATO air campaign against Yugoslavia, when Clark led rallies which brought WWP communists together with right-wing nationalists and Orthodox priests from the Serb immigrant community. Serbian flags were proudly waved at these New York rallies, while meetings at IAC's 14th Street offices degenerated into mass chants of "Serbia! Serbia! Serbia!" This at a time when Serbian police and paramilitaries were forcing 800,000 Albanian refugees to flee their homes in Kosovo at gunpoint. Again, WRL and other anti-war groups broke away to form their own coalition that rejected both NATO's bombing and Serbian aggression against the Kosovo Albanians. But this time it was only IAC/WWP which held a national rally in DC.
In October 1999, Clark met with Yugoslavia's President Slobodan Milosevic in Belgrade, and said everything the dictator wanted to hear. Milosevic, by then facing war crimes charges before the UN tribunal, called his guest "brave, objective, and moral."
The case against Radovan Karadzic languished since the UN launched war crimes charges against him, forcing him into hiding in Serbia. Clark, meanwhile, represented a Rwandan Hutu militiaman fighting his extradition from the US back to Rwanda to face genocide charges. The WWP line simultaneously (and predictably) tilted to the genocidal Hutu militias as the UN wrote up war crime charges against their leaders for ordering the slaughter of half a million Tutsi civilians in 1994.
What is Ramsey Clark: dupe, kook or spook? Has a well-intentioned but none-too-bright Clark been duped by the WWP cadre? Or has his reasoning become unhinged for reasons of personal psychology? Or, is he a deep-cover spook, whose real Devil's pact is with sinister elements of the US intelligence community, his mission to divide and discredit any resistance to Washington's war moves?

[ChrisD]

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Friday, Feb. 3, 2006 7:20 a.m. EST


Bill Clinton Praised by Iran, Arabs

Ex-president Bill Clinton is winning high praise throughout the Arab world for his recent comments condemning anti-Muslim bias and urging dialogue with Hamas - with even Iranian newspapers touting his go-slow approach to that country's nuclear threat.

Citing Clinton's comments as a constructive alternative to President Bush's dire warnings, the state-run Iran News agency reported Thursday:

"Former U.S. President Bill Clinton recently opined that America had done injustice to the Iranian people by overthrowing the democratically elected government of nationalist prime minister Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq through a CIA-orchestrated coup in 1954. Furthermore, Clinton urged the U.S. government to engage Iran and added that the only way to resolve the nuclear dispute is through negotiations."

In the last few weeks, the ex-president has gone out of his way to try to downplay comments from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel should be "wiped off the map."

Speaking in Jerusalem in November, Clinton acknowledged that the remark was "outrageous," but he cautioned that the Iranian leader was "not elected because of his hatred for Israel or the West."

"He was elected because of the economic distress of ordinary Iranians, and which he promised to relieve by giving them financial assistance," the ex-president insisted, according to the Jerusalem Post.

Clinton warned Israel not to act unilaterally when reacting to terrorist threats, saying that "true peace and security can only come through principled compromise."

The former president's remarks on Monday at an economic conference in Doha, Qatar are also winning high praise.

Clinton took pains to condemn a series of cartoons appearing in European newspapers that parodied the Islamic prophet Mohammed, calling them "appalling."

"So now what are we going to do? ... Replace the anti-Semitic prejudice with anti-Islamic prejudice?" he told the conference.

On Thursday, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak warned that the cartoons could provoke terrorist attacks against the West, but according to the Bahrain News Agency, Mubarak "expressed appreciation of the declarations made by former U.S. President, Bill Clinton."

Clinton's recent performance has prompted glowing press in news outlets not known for their friendly posture towards America.

Yesterday, for instance, Qatar's leading English daily newspaper, The Peninsula, devoted an entire story to an interview with a female Egyptian lawyer who had become a virtual Clinton groupie.

"I am in Doha for the first time and it is here that I met Clinton," Dr. Nariman Abdel Kader told the paper. "A photographer was taking pictures of Clinton and I was standing nearby. The president saw me and asked me to come closer and pose along [with him]. I was so excited. I told him I was a lawyer too, and he laughed and shook hands me."

"I have photographs taken with Kofi Annan and the president of Portugal but have never been as excited as I am now after having met Clinton," she gushed, before adding, "We like him. All Arabs like him. But I hate George Bush and all Arabs hate him."

[DarylB]

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Friday, Feb. 3, 2006 7:20 a.m. EST


Bill Clinton Praised by Iran, Arabs

Ex-president Bill Clinton is winning high praise throughout the Arab world for his recent comments condemning anti-Muslim bias and urging dialogue with Hamas - with even Iranian newspapers touting his go-slow approach to that country's nuclear threat.

Citing Clinton's comments as a constructive alternative to President Bush's dire warnings, the state-run Iran News agency reported Thursday:

"Former U.S. President Bill Clinton recently opined that America had done injustice to the Iranian people by overthrowing the democratically elected government of nationalist prime minister Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq through a CIA-orchestrated coup in 1954. Furthermore, Clinton urged the U.S. government to engage Iran and added that the only way to resolve the nuclear dispute is through negotiations."

In the last few weeks, the ex-president has gone out of his way to try to downplay comments from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel should be "wiped off the map."

Speaking in Jerusalem in November, Clinton acknowledged that the remark was "outrageous," but he cautioned that the Iranian leader was "not elected because of his hatred for Israel or the West."

"He was elected because of the economic distress of ordinary Iranians, and which he promised to relieve by giving them financial assistance," the ex-president insisted, according to the Jerusalem Post.

Clinton warned Israel not to act unilaterally when reacting to terrorist threats, saying that "true peace and security can only come through principled compromise."

The former president's remarks on Monday at an economic conference in Doha, Qatar are also winning high praise.

Clinton took pains to condemn a series of cartoons appearing in European newspapers that parodied the Islamic prophet Mohammed, calling them "appalling."

"So now what are we going to do? ... Replace the anti-Semitic prejudice with anti-Islamic prejudice?" he told the conference.

On Thursday, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak warned that the cartoons could provoke terrorist attacks against the West, but according to the Bahrain News Agency, Mubarak "expressed appreciation of the declarations made by former U.S. President, Bill Clinton."

Clinton's recent performance has prompted glowing press in news outlets not known for their friendly posture towards America.

Yesterday, for instance, Qatar's leading English daily newspaper, The Peninsula, devoted an entire story to an interview with a female Egyptian lawyer who had become a virtual Clinton groupie.

"I am in Doha for the first time and it is here that I met Clinton," Dr. Nariman Abdel Kader told the paper. "A photographer was taking pictures of Clinton and I was standing nearby. The president saw me and asked me to come closer and pose along [with him]. I was so excited. I told him I was a lawyer too, and he laughed and shook hands me."

"I have photographs taken with Kofi Annan and the president of Portugal but have never been as excited as I am now after having met Clinton," she gushed, before adding, "We like him. All Arabs like him. But I hate George Bush and all Arabs hate him."

Why so shocked? We've known for years that Bill Clinton was elected NOT for his judgement, but for his adherence to the Progressive agenda. The fact that he would perform acts of treason in that endeavor was established long ago when he sold advanced nuclear weapons technology from our Trident submarine program, along with the associated hardened computer chip technology, to the communist Chinese government. So, I for one am far from shocked, or even surprised.......

China's Nuclear Space Technology: From Clinton With Love
By Charles R. Smith
Newsmax.com | October 3, 2003

Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.

The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.

"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."

"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the Commerce Department documents.

These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles.

Judicial Watch obtained the documents through the Freedom of Information Act, a Washington-based political watchdog group.

Several documents were withheld from release by the U.S. Commerce Department for commercial and personal privacy exemptions, but none of the documents were withheld for national security reasons. Judicial Watch is expected to appeal the withholdings.

Decade of Betrayal

U.S. intelligence sources stated that the newly released documents illustrate the extent to which the Clinton White House placed trade – and trade with China specifically – above national security.

"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher, Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

"If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites. This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility," stated Fisher.

"Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were assisting a PLA strategic military capability," concluded Fisher.

In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear arsenal.

U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes

Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.

The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.

As part of this upgrade, the Chinese army is also modifying its nuclear warhead designs to arm new survivable missiles such as the DF-31 and JL-2. Chinese engineers are planning to equip these new missiles with MIRV technology, allowing each missile to carry multiple nuclear warheads.

Again, the U.S. radiation hardened computer chip technology is a logical addition to the reconfiguration and upgrade of Chinese nuclear weapons.

Stolen U.S. Chips

Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips.

In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz.

However, fate took a twisted path, and so did the Chinese rocket. The Long March rocket failed on launch and crashed into a nearby Chinese village, killing over 200 innocent civilians. The failure of the Long March allowed the U.S. to recover the sealed satellite guidance box, which revealed the control board of radiation-hardened chips was missing.

The missing board from the Loral Intelsat satellite is no mystery. It quickly became obvious that Chinese engineers removed the special electronics and kept the board for examination. The stolen Loral electronics consist of radiation hardened, encrypted telemetry chips, stored in a secure flight control box similar to those found on airliners. The NSA changed all U.S. satellite codes as a result of the stolen Loral chips, costing American taxpayers millions of dollars.

1996 Illegal Campaign Donations

Another factor involved in the November 1996 waiver issued by then-President Clinton is the fact that illegal money entered the U.S. elections from the Chinese army. The money was donated to the DNC from a variety of sources including convicted Chinagate figures John Huang, Charlie "Yah-Lin" Trie and Johnny Chung.

The 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign readily accepted much of the money from the Chinese army sources without question, and in some cases took these donations in cash. The allegations of Chinese espionage and illegal campaign donations were never investigated properly.

The successful effort by China to obtain U.S. microchip technology included espionage, sabotage and perhaps bribery.The red intelligence windfall freed the Chinese army to more accurately target American cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology.

The legacy that President Clinton left for the 21st century is a modern Chinese army equipped for global nuclear war.

[Wuptdo]

Well, if this is happening in England, how soon before we are forced........

Arrested for not Speaking a Foreign Language (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410150&in_page_id=1770)

Geez, what is the world turning into???? :roll: :roll:

Wuptdo B-)

[francejamie]

Yeah, I'm sure the Chineese could never have come up with those chips on their own, given time. And, I'm sure Bill just gave them to them, and didn't obtain anything in return. I'm sure it wasn't a trade for something vital in the US interests.

As for Bill being popular with some of the Muslim peoples.... That's the only sane way we are ever going to resolve all this. Compromise, and finding ways to understand each other, and work together. The only other long term choice is genocide, and I'm not really in favor of that.
It's great that we have a Statesman like Clinton working to find ways we can live together rather than calling all Muslim nations a new "Axis of Evil" and saying they we want them brought in "dead or alive." That tough talk is really productive, isn't it? :wink:

[NOtoMYR]

As for Bill being popular with some of the Muslim peoples.... That's the only sane way we are ever going to resolve all this. Compromise, and finding ways to understand each other, and work together.


So what you're saying is: "Can't we all get along?"

Melissa

[DarylB]

It's great that we have a Statesman like Clinton working to find ways we can live together rather than calling all Muslim nations a new "Axis of Evil" ...

This is peace in our time.....

Those who fail to understand history, are doomed to repeat it....

[NOtoMYR]

European Muslims polled by Pew in June

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/pewmuslims.jpg


From Michelle Malkin's website. Relatively small percentages in each country, but when you add them all up......

Mark Steyn says:

"my little girl and your little girl, when they're our age, they will find a large number of places in what we think of as the free world, the developed world, far less congenial than we would. I mean, you and I would think nothing of hopping on a plane, going to London, Paris or Berlin. Those are going to be very uncomfortable places for a young, middle-aged Western woman circa 2020, 2030, and it's precisely because we've taken for granted this very unusual period in history. We take it for granted that it's a permanent state of affairs. It isn't. It requires incredible vigilance and incredible effort to preserve it." :cry:

Melissa

[Wuptdo]

A ninty second history lesson on the middle-east:

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

Takes a few seconds to load

Also, a real interesting blog of the never ending war with islam:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/

Ok, like all your other history lessons, you can forget...........................................n ow.

http://chromatism.net/current/images/iphobe.jpg

Wuptdo B-)

[dhyatt]

This is so cool, I decided to embed it right here :-)


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[StanN]

Cool map. Read Michner's "The Source". Visit Turkey or Israel. I remember walking down a "tel" ( a mound) in Turkey. The guide told us the remants of 10 civilizations were under our feet.

StanN

[francejamie]

That was a very cool map.

What I was saying is that we need to decide to either:
1) wipe out or subjugate the Muslims

or

2) learn to live together

[dhyatt]

That was a very cool map.

What I was saying is that we need to decide to either:
1) wipe out or subjugate the Muslims

or

2) learn to live together

Your view is a little too one-sided. The Islamic radical's view is very similar, you just have to change the order of the words. Their view (by their own admission) is 1) wipe out the infidels (i.e. us) or 2) we learn to live with them (i.e. accept subjugation). The concept of the extremists accepting western style freedom is the very reason many of them are fighting us to begin with.

Unfortunately, the average American view of "learn to live together" and the Islamic radical view "learn to live together" are mutually exclusive - unless of course, you're ready to be subjugated. I'm not. They can't even seem to live with eachother. What makes you think they're willing to make any accommodation to live with us???

[StanN]

Islamic radicals sound like the Art Pope radicals to me. How about the "loyal" American radicals who blew up the Oklahoma City office building. Was Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth Islamic.? Were they fanatics? I could name some Jewish fanatics who are rotten to the core. How about the Catholic radical fanatics that conducted the Inquisition.

What concerns me is that islamic=radicals=fanatics. I know moslems that I'd rather have as friends than some jews and christians I know.

Just because the President hopes to extend his regime by using the term "islamofascist" is no reason for intelligent non-fanatics to follow in his steps.

stanN

[DarylB]

Islamic radicals sound like the Art Pope radicals to me. How about the "loyal" American radicals who blew up the Oklahoma City office building. Was Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth Islamic.? Were they fanatics? I could name some Jewish fanatics who are rotten to the core. How about the Catholic radical fanatics that conducted the Inquisition.

What concerns me is that islamic=radicals=fanatics. I know moslems that I'd rather have as friends than some jews and christians I know.

Just because the President hopes to extend his regime by using the term "islamofascist" is no reason for intelligent non-fanatics to follow in his steps.

stanN

Would Stanofascist make you happier? geeesh..... I'd think that anything that mentioned "ART" would be something you'd support!!!

[dhyatt]

Islamic radicals sound like the Art Pope radicals to me. How about the "loyal" American radicals who blew up the Oklahoma City office building. Was Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth Islamic.? Were they fanatics? I could name some Jewish fanatics who are rotten to the core. How about the Catholic radical fanatics that conducted the Inquisition.

What concerns me is that islamic=radicals=fanatics. I know moslems that I'd rather have as friends than some jews and christians I know.

Just because the President hopes to extend his regime by using the term "islamofascist" is no reason for intelligent non-fanatics to follow in his steps.

stanN

Stan,
We certainly have our share of 'fanatics' and 'radicals'. They cannot be reasoned with either and I was careful NOT to use the term 'Islamofascist' since I consider it it to be too broad. If you think you can reason with terrorists - Islamic or otherwise - then I humbly sumbit you're wrong. And if you poo-poo the fact that Islamic terrorism is being supported and perpetuated by many of their religious leaders then I have to say you are naive. There is no valid comparison whatsoever between Art Pope and the kind of people that beheaded Nick Berg and countless others.

[francejamie]

Exactly. You may have to kill off the terrorists, then find a way to live with the others.

Of course, this would all be easier without the whole religion thing.
I just started reading Sam Harris's book "A Letter to a Christian Nation" which I highly recommend to everyone. It's very interesting and though provoking reading.

[Wuptdo]

Just when my faith in "True Love" and "Love at First Sight" has been restore when these two lovebirds got married, then I read this:

PAM SPLITS OVER KID BLOWUP (http://www.nypost.com/seven/11282006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm)

November 28, 2006 -- JUST three months after they wed in St. Tropez, Pamela Anderson has filed for divorce from Kid Rock (real name Bob Richie) because of his "male insecurity and major anger issues," a close pal said.

The final straw was a bellicose blowup Rock threw at Universal Studio chief Ron Meyer's Beverly Hills house two weeks ago.

"Ron Meyer held a screening of 'Borat' at his house for a bunch of people, including Pam and Bob," says an Anderson pal. "It was the first time Bob had seen the movie, and, well, he didn't like it."

So much for true love and love conquers all. :cry: :cry:

If there is no hope for Kid Rock & Pam, is there any hope for the rest of us?

Wuptdo B-)

[Wuptdo]

Someone has found the "dark" side of the force:
Gov. seeks sweeping health system reforms

By Jordan Rau, Times Staff Writer
3:09 PM PST, January 8, 2007

SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today proposed upending just about every portion of the healthcare industry in one of the country's most elaborate efforts at holding down medical costs and expanding insurance to those who don't have it.

Schwarzenegger's plan, which he publicly unveiled at noon, would require employers with 10 workers or more to buy insurance for their workers or pay a fee of 4% of their payroll into a program to help provide coverage for the uninsured.

Schwarzenegger would tax doctors 2% of their gross revenue and place a 4% tax on hospitals. He campaigned for reelection on an anti-tax platform, but his administration argues that so many more people would have insurance that medical providers would make more money.

The governor also wants to ban insurers from refusing to offer coverage to some individuals because of their prior medical conditions. Insurers would also have to spend at least 85% of their premium revenues on patient care, a move that would limit the amount companies spend on administrative costs and profits.

In an effort to cover all Californian children, including ones in the state illegally, Schwarzenegger's plan would expand the state's Healthy Families program, providing insurance to children whose parents make less than three times the poverty level. That works out to about $60,000 for a family of four.

And Schwarzenegger said his plan would require every Californian to have health insurance. (more below)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-ex-gov8jan09,0,2093608.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I guess that Gov. Arnold didn't get the memo - National (or State) Health Care Systems do not work! (Please see Canada, France, or England for details).

Now, if I was either a corporate CEO, or even a small business owner, I would now be definitely thinking about pulling up stakes and moving to greener pastures. If I was in the Health Care Industry or a Doctor, my house would be on the market right now!

Since when is "health care" a right?

Wuptdo B-)

[francejamie]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-ex-gov8jan09,0,2093608.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I guess that Gov. Arnold didn't get the memo - National (or State) Health Care Systems do not work! (Please see Canada, France, or England for details).

Now, if I was either a corporate CEO, or even a small business owner, I would now be definitely thinking about pulling up stakes and moving to greener pastures. If I was in the Health Care Industry or a Doctor, my house would be on the market right now!

Since when is "health care" a right?

Wuptdo B-)

I showed some great examples of how national health care actually works better in other countries than our system in a previous thead. It's funny how only those who have heath care think that things are great with our system. Try going without health care for a few years, and then come back and tell me how this isn't important.

BTW, the system seems to be working pretty well in Massachusetts so far. They haven't seen that mass exodus of businesses you are predicting.

[Dharma]

I showed some great examples of how national health care actually works better in other countries than our system in a previous thead. It's funny how only those who have heath care think that things are great with our system. Try going without health care for a few years, and then come back and tell me how this isn't important.

BTW, the system seems to be working pretty well in Massachusetts so far. They haven't seen that mass exodus of businesses you are predicting.

I have to TOTALLY agree with you on this one, Jamie. I just got off the phone with a woman who is recovering from cancer. She lives on a fixed income but does not qualify for Medicaid. She was just turned over to a collection agency because she couldn't pay the bill for her last doctor's visit. She must have a PET scan every year to detect the recurrance of cancer but since she is not insured, the local hospital has refused her.

Wup, please explain to me how this woman, and a few million like her, are supposed to get medical care. I guess only those who have access and the means have the right to live?

[Wuptdo]

Let the chips fall where they may:

Ramos/Compean Case Becoming Another Watergate? (http://www.vdare.com/collins/070215_ramos.htm)

IMHO, when it comes to this issue, both the Executive Branch & Congress are all guilty of treason.

Wuptdo B-)

[Wuptdo]

Watch this:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/29/video-rosie-melts-down-on-the-view/

Two things come to mind: 1) Hillary should make Rosie her running mate (this would solidify her base for sure), 2) What happened to "The View?" I thought the idea was to have four diverse women discuss ideas and events from different prospectives. What I saw where four white chicks -- where did the diversity go?

Wuptdo B-)

[Wuptdo]

For many of you, this will make you proud that we live in such a great country:

The Noe Aleman Story (http://www.noealeman.com/the_story_of_noe_aleman_jr.html)

So when do we start throwing all the homebuilders & landscapers in the pokey for harboring illegal aliens? Or even better, public officials like the school teachers, principals, or social workers, in public schoo/welfarel systems. Why only the Border Patrol? :roll: :roll:

Wuptdo :oops:

[DarylB]

For many of you, this will make you proud that we live in such a great country:

The Noe Aleman Story (http://www.noealeman.com/the_story_of_noe_aleman_jr.html)

So when do we start throwing all the homebuilders & landscapers in the pokey for harboring illegal aliens? Or even better, public officials like the school teachers, principals, or social workers, in public schoo/welfarel systems. Why only the Border Patrol? :roll: :roll:

Wuptdo :oops:

I think I'd be cheering my butt off if the INS raided the Wake County schools like they did the Purdue chicken plant. And to see Del Burns and Patti Head hauled away in 'cuffs for aiding and abetting would just be the icing on the cake.....

[Wuptdo]

So I guess Texas is no longer Texas but now a reflection of the people & values of folks from Kalifornia & Massachusetts.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287209,00.html

Texas DA Won't Prosecute Any Pedophiles Nabbed in NBC 'Predator' Show
Thursday, June 28, 2007
AP Story

MURPHY, Texas — A sting in which police teamed up with "Dateline NBC" to catch online pedophiles was supposed to send a flinty-eyed, Texas-style warning about this Dallas suburb: Don't mess with Murphy.

Instead, it has turned into a fiasco.

One of the 25 men caught in the sting — a prosecutor from a neighboring county — committed suicide when police came to arrest him. The Murphy city manager who approved the operation lost his job in the ensuing furor.

And the district attorney is refusing to prosecute any of the men, saying many of the cases were tainted by the involvement of amateurs.

"Certainly these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but the fact that this was all done for television cameras raises some questions," said Mayor Bret Baldwin.

It is the first time in nine "Dateline NBC: To Catch a Predator" stings across the country in the past year and a half that prosecutors did not pursue charges.

"Dateline" has made prime-time entertainment out of contacting would-be child molesters over the Internet, luring them to a meeting place, and videotaping their humiliating confrontations with reporter Chris Hansen. (more above)

I remember watching this show and they were caught red handed. Makes you wonder why the Mayor and local prosecutor are so upset? A very sad day in America when perverts are given this type of protection.

Wuptdo B-)

[Rich]

I think that turning any part of crime into entertainment is hideous. Don't get me wrong, that shouldn't get in the way of punishing criminals, but I think that the Dateline piece is about as disgusting as TV gets.

[DarylB]

I think that turning any part of crime into entertainment is hideous. Don't get me wrong, that shouldn't get in the way of punishing criminals, but I think that the Dateline piece is about as disgusting as TV gets.

I'd have to agree, that TV has come to make a crime (any crime), entertainment. We were "entertained" with the likes of OJ Simpson, and Michael Peterson.... we've had Paris Hilton swooning because her caviar in jail was too hot ... or too cold... or whatever the little bear said wasn't just right. And then there is the murdered lovely, petite, pregnant white girl du jour.... Lacy Peterson, the "Ohio" girl, and one down in the Farmers Market area delivering papers.... always another one, and it's always followed minute by minute, often with the Sky5 helicopter crew doing interviews of the family pet. I have to admit to watching plenty of my favorite police chase videos, knowing there was going to be a bad end for the guy in the wife-beater T-shirt that just robbed the liquor store of 37 cents in change. Kinda like our own backyard version of NASCAR, without the prices....... But what still gets to me is when the media make criminals of the innocent, while the system becomes a circus. Yes, you too can be Nifong'ed on a moments notice........

[Wuptdo]

From DNC website DailyKoS:

We must be ever vigilantly cynical regarding the bloodthirsty, money-hungry cut-throats in the White House because they never disappoint the rudest and crudest analysis of their active and ongoing conspiracies. The vilest imaginings of Stephen King is where these deceitful serpents dwell. Never make the mistake that you are being too cold in your analysis of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/27/21214/1997

I'm not feeling the love of the "big-tent" party. So is this type of "hate speech" acceptable?

Wuptdo B-)

[francejamie]

From DNC website DailyKoS:

We must be ever vigilantly cynical regarding the bloodthirsty, money-hungry cut-throats in the White House because they never disappoint the rudest and crudest analysis of their active and ongoing conspiracies. The vilest imaginings of Stephen King is where these deceitful serpents dwell. Never make the mistake that you are being too cold in your analysis of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/27/21214/1997

I'm not feeling the love of the "big-tent" party. So is this type of "hate speech" acceptable?

Wuptdo B-)

They are just calling Herr Bush's regime for what it is. It's not hate speech if it it's describing the truth accurately.

[Dharma]

From DNC website DailyKoS:

We must be ever vigilantly cynical regarding the bloodthirsty, money-hungry cut-throats in the White House because they never disappoint the rudest and crudest analysis of their active and ongoing conspiracies. The vilest imaginings of Stephen King is where these deceitful serpents dwell. Never make the mistake that you are being too cold in your analysis of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/27/21214/1997

I'm not feeling the love of the "big-tent" party. So is this type of "hate speech" acceptable?

Wuptdo B-)

They are just calling Herr Bush's regime for what it is. It's not hate speech if it it's describing the truth accurately.

If you'll read the entire diary and reader's comments, you'll see there is some suspicion that this diary was a set-up by a subscriber of Little Green Footballs (as it's cross posted there). Wup, aren't you a regular reader of LGFs? :lol:

[DarylB]

From DNC website DailyKoS:

We must be ever vigilantly cynical regarding the bloodthirsty, money-hungry cut-throats in the White House because they never disappoint the rudest and crudest analysis of their active and ongoing conspiracies. The vilest imaginings of Stephen King is where these deceitful serpents dwell. Never make the mistake that you are being too cold in your analysis of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/27/21214/1997

I'm not feeling the love of the "big-tent" party. So is this type of "hate speech" acceptable?

Wuptdo B-)

They are just calling Herr Bush's regime for what it is. It's not hate speech if it it's describing the truth accurately.

.... And Hitler saw the Jews as the "problem", and like you, also felt that what he said and did was in the interests of truth and accuracy by his own definition, vilifying any and all who see the world other than IAW their own "enlightened" view as "deceitful serpents"..... good call Jamie..... :^o

Anybody seen Jamie's "Big Tent"????? :toothy2: I think it got blown away in his latest blast of hot air!

[francejamie]

From DNC website DailyKoS:

We must be ever vigilantly cynical regarding the bloodthirsty, money-hungry cut-throats in the White House because they never disappoint the rudest and crudest analysis of their active and ongoing conspiracies. The vilest imaginings of Stephen King is where these deceitful serpents dwell. Never make the mistake that you are being too cold in your analysis of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/27/21214/1997

I'm not feeling the love of the "big-tent" party. So is this type of "hate speech" acceptable?

Wuptdo B-)

They are just calling Herr Bush's regime for what it is. It's not hate speech if it it's describing the truth accurately.

.... And Hitler saw the Jews as the "problem", and like you, also felt that what he said and did was in the interests of truth and accuracy by his own definition, vilifying any and all who see the world other than IAW their own "enlightened" view as "deceitful serpents"..... good call Jamie..... :^o

Anybody seen Jamie's "Big Tent"????? :toothy2: I think it got blown away in his latest blast of hot air!


For starters, you seem to be confusing me with the Democratic party. I've made no claim to a big tent.

Secondly, I was being tongue in cheek on that one. Obviously there is such a thing as hate speech, but, unfortunately for you, calling someone on their poor choice of political actions really doesn't qualify as such.

[Wuptdo]

No Charges After Toddler Died In Car
Southwest

BATAVIA, Ohio - No charges will be filed against a middle school administrator whose toddler daughter died last month when she was left in the back seat of her mother's SUV during a heat wave, a prosecutor said Tuesday.

Leaving the child in the car for the work day was "a substantial lapse of due care" but did not meet the definition of reckless conduct necessary for prosecution, said Clermont County Prosecutor Don White.

Brenda Nesselroad-Slaby, 40, is assistant principal at Glen Este Middle School, about 20 miles east of Cincinnati. Authorities said she left her 2-year-old daughter, Cecilia, strapped into a car seat for about eight hours on Aug. 23 while she was at work at the school.

Temperatures outside reached about 100 degrees.

(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

http://www.ohionewsnow.com/?story=sites/ONN/content/pool/200709/1352288903.html

8O 8-O 8O

Wuptdo B-)

[Wuptdo]

These started showing up in Milan, Italy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU3ULV14XoI

Does not work for me. Forcing models to either smoke or use heroin to maintain this look is at best sickening. I would be nice to see the "Western" women fight back and not buy clothes from these designers that exploit women for this look. Do any of you guys find the "look" sexy?

Now, this is an interesting video of what I consider a healthy women in all her beauty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD8qOmUrmPg

Some good advice from across the pond, too. :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

[Dharma]

Bush taps birth control critic to head family planning programming
Jason Rhyne
Published: Wednesday October 17, 2007

President Bush's choice for heading family planning programming within the Department of Health and Human Services is a critic of birth control.

"Susan Orr, most recently an associate commissioner in the Administration for Children and Families, was appointed Monday to be acting deputy assistant secretary for population affairs," reports the Washington Post. "She will oversee $283 million in annual grants to provide low-income families and others with contraceptive services, counseling and preventive screenings."

Orr was quoted in a 2001 article in the Post as supporting a Bush proposal to end a requirement that health insurance plans for federal employees contain coverage for birth control. "We're quite pleased," she said about the plan at the time, "because fertility is not a disease."

"It’s not a medical necessity that you have it," Orr said of contraception.

She is also a former senior director with the Family Research Council, a conservative organization promoting abstinence education programs and standing against federal funding for contraception.

Eric Keroack, who previously held the post before his resignation in March, similarly opposed contraceptive options, calling them "demeaning to women." He was the head of A Woman's Concern, a Christian pregnancy-counseling group which also favors abstinence as a primary birth control method.

"We have another appointment that just truly politicizes family planning," the president of the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association, Mary Jane Gallagher, told the Post. "The last time I looked, both Republicans and Democrats used contraception in America."

A spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services, however, told the Wall Street Journal that Orr was supportive of Bush's policies of providing "safe and effective products and services" and that allow for a "freedom of conscience and freedom of choice."

Anand Parekh, the acting deputy assistant secretary for health, praised Orr for her previous work at the Department.

"She has been responsible for working with State and local agencies to develop programs that focus on preventing the abuse of children in troubled families, protecting children from abuse, and finding permanent placements for those who cannot safely return to their homes,” Parekh told the Journal.

Orr's appointment does not require confirmation from the Senate.

For those who call yourselves Pro-Choice, wouldn't birth control be a good choice? Or, is it that birth control should only be for those who can afford it? If poor women can't get birth control, there's certainly going to be more abortions and more deaths from self-abortions. :cussing:

[Rich]

deputy assistant secretary for population affairs(Checks map)
Nope, we aren't in China.

Birth control is a necessity and to say otherwise is incredibly short-sighted.

[hal990]

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
- Winston Churchill

BTW - a coalition of border-town mayors in Texas is fighting to prevent Home Security from building a planned wall & fence.

EAGLE PASS, Texas (Oct. 16, 2007) – A coalition of Texas border mayors, county judges and business leaders is calling on the Bush Administration to scrap its planned border wall in the Lone Star State in favor of more effective “smart” technology.

“The U.S. government is proposing to spend billions of dollars on a wasteful series of projects that will not deliver the security America and Texas need,” Eagle Pass Mayor Chad Foster, chairman of the Texas Border Coalition (TBC), said today in response to a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ request for public comment on the proposed border wall in the Rio Grande Valley.
http://www.texasbordercoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=41

[Wuptdo]

Ok, this is very strange or is it deranged?

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7768

Cookies???

Wuptdo B-)

[Wuptdo]

I'm sure this is the last thing in the world the Commander of this Task Force wanted to see:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/14/asia/AS_GEN_Malaysia_US_Carrier_Incident.php

Even in the "Cold War" days, the Soviet Navy knew better than to do something like this, at least with their subs.

Special Note for non-Naval Type: When underwater, Diesel Submarines run on large batteries, and if the crew is very quite, they are almost completely silent.

May I suggest when shopping in the future, that you avoid the "Made in China" label.

Wuptdo B-)