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dhyatt
04-27-2004, 10:25 AM
Premise: News accounts of terrorists stockpiling weapons in mosques, schools and hospitals are true - especially in mosques. The outright bombing of mosques is generally frowned upon.
Terrorists and their puffed-up leaders like bin-Laden and al-Sadar (note to women: hyphenating your last name isn't necessarily a good thing) understand this and exploit what they know to be a uniquely American virtue - a basic respect for their religion even though they have none for us. They feel they're safe in a mosque because we wouldn't dare bomb it or storm it. For the most part they're right and it makes hunting them down especially difficult.
I propose a solution: A carefully chosen small team of US military muslims that will respect and inspect each and every mosque after it's surrounded by US troops. If they are denied access, the inhabitants are given 2hrs to allow inspection or to leave. If they don't comply, the mosque is leveled along with everything in it. If they choose to leave, some # of them accompany the US team inside for inspection anyway, thus reducing the odds of a boobytrap.
As long as they are willing to hole up in mosques and shoot at us (and peace seeking Iraqi's) from the tops of minarets - we have to be willing to call their bluff. Otherwise I don't see an end to the current standoff.
kellyc
04-27-2004, 10:59 AM
I think that is one of the better ideas about this situation that I have seen in a while. Very smart. I am sure that someone could find some kind of liberal holes in it. Good thinking Don!
Kelly
johnb
04-27-2004, 04:22 PM
Screw 'em.
What we did to Monte Cassino is what should happen to that pagan cult center in Najaf. If these primates will not abide by the Geneva Conventions (not using hospitals and churches/mosques as places to stash weapons or as places from which to fire on their opponents) then when they use their so-called religious institutions as military bases they should be obliterated and all the miscreants exterminated. Period.
Not one American life should be risked to spare their mosques any damage. They store weapons in the mosque, we need an A10 to flatten the **** thing then shoot the sonsabitches that want to riot over it.
The only thing these animals seem willing to understand is a boot on their throat and a gun barrel on their forehead.
yep, definitely never running for political office. :wink:
johnb
04-29-2004, 06:39 AM
Yep,
However, amazingly, still eligible for military service. :twisted:
Unlike most of you geezers I'm still young and fit. 8)
You'll always be a "forum GENERAL" to us John.
Anonymous
05-06-2004, 07:00 PM
Mote Cassino is perhaps a much closer metaphor than first suggested here.
This is from a history produced by the BBC:
"World War Two: The Battle of Monte Cassino
By Professor Richard Holmes
The second battle began on 15 February, with the controversial destruction of the monastery by heavy and medium bombers. On the one hand, it seems likely that there were no Germans in the monastery at the time. However, they were to defend its ruins tenaciously. Furthermore, the nearest Allied troops were too far away to take advantage of the shock of the bombing.
On the other hand, however, most combatants had come to hate the building so much that they simply wanted the all-seeing eye poked out. John Ellis rightly judges the attack that followed to be one of the low points of Allied generalship in the war.
He castigates 'a wilful failure at the highest level to take due account of the terrible problems involved in mounting a concerted attack across such appalling terrain [which] were still being grossly underestimated a full month later'. "
dhyatt
05-06-2004, 10:03 PM
Mote Cassino is perhaps a much closer metaphor than first suggested here.
This is from a history produced by the BBC:
"World War Two: The Battle of Monte Cassino
By Professor Richard Holmes
The second battle began on 15 February, with the controversial destruction of the monastery by heavy and medium bombers. On the one hand, it seems likely that there were no Germans in the monastery at the time. However, they were to defend its ruins tenaciously. Furthermore, the nearest Allied troops were too far away to take advantage of the shock of the bombing.
On the other hand, however, most combatants had come to hate the building so much that they simply wanted the all-seeing eye poked out. John Ellis rightly judges the attack that followed to be one of the low points of Allied generalship in the war.
He castigates 'a wilful failure at the highest level to take due account of the terrible problems involved in mounting a concerted attack across such appalling terrain [which] were still being grossly underestimated a full month later'. "
Point is well taken except the premise here is that we either know their are terrorists and/or weapons in the mosque or we know that they won't let us check it out - even when those doing the checking are to do so respectfully. In other words, we know they're hiding something. I absolutely agree with Holmes' implication that the building itself is moot - it's what it stands for that's important.
Wuptdo
05-07-2004, 02:45 PM
Haven't seen this on the "hard" news yet. However, it appears that Jordon "found" 20 tons of various "nasty" stuff that was shipped from Iraq prior to the invasion last year. I wonder how much more was shipped out before the invasion?
(Mr. Agar was talking about this yesterday on his show)
Wuptdo B-)
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