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johnb
06-10-2004, 11:00 AM
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2004/05/03/

Mark
06-10-2004, 06:29 PM
Good find.

While we're playing, how about... this is the right

http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2004/05/29/

But, in all seriousness, this is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2004/03/16/

johnb
06-10-2004, 06:50 PM
Ted Rall is enormously unfunny. He is mean as hell. Someone who'd laugh at the death of GI like Pat Tillman is a vile piece of human debris.

The sad thing about Rall's cartoon, the one you think is so hilarious, is that I know of no American making excuses for what happened to those Iraqis. No one is saying the perps should be shielded from prosecution. That is what makes the US system of governance ethically superior. We will prosecute GI's suspected of war crimes. The Islamofascists have no such sensibility because their system classifies non-Muslims as subhumans fit only to be repressed as slaves or exterminated. They celebrate torture, murder, and genocide by slaughtering civilians and hanging the charred bodies from a bridge while they dance around the remains to "celebrate" their bravery in the face of al-Illah's enemies.

And all the while you make a foolish case for the moral equivalency of the two.

Mark
06-13-2004, 09:12 PM
The sad thing about Rall's cartoon, the one you think is so hilarious, is that I know of no American making excuses for what happened to those Iraqis. No one is saying the perps should be shielded from prosecution.

First, I thought the second comic was actually funny, the first one was merely a response to a more or less accurate characterization of conservatism. Second, people are making excuses... those soldiers were just blowing off steam, says Rush, cut them some slack. Third, no one is saying the perps should be shielded from prosecution... unless, of course, those perps happen to be more senior level of command, which would require some more investigation, which the is generally being resisted, and... well, you get the picture.



That is what makes the US system of governance ethically superior. We will prosecute GI's suspected of war crimes. The Islamofascists have no such sensibility because their system classifies non-Muslims as subhumans fit only to be repressed as slaves or exterminated. They celebrate torture, murder, and genocide by slaughtering civilians and hanging the charred bodies from a bridge while they dance around the remains to "celebrate" their bravery in the face of al-Illah's enemies.

The U.S. system is ethically superior, but it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, ethically perfect. Not only will the U.S. try those soldiers involved, it will also hold perfectly innocent people without charge for years. It will also be responsible for torturing and murdering a handfull as well. Now, again, I'm not suggesting that this is an apples to apples comparison, only that your use of the word "system" is troubling. True the Islamic system is more overtly oppressive. But if the U.S. system promises the world to all, and never in practice delivers, and, in fact, is flouted internationally, what then is the difference? When you're on the receiving end of U.S. aggression, it doesn't much matter.