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johnb
01-13-2004, 11:35 AM
It was claimed in 2000 that Bush did not have a mandate since the election was so close and that this was supposedly a 50-50 country in terms of ideological division.

What has occured since then and what is likely to happen in 2004 to change that ?

Several states that barely went Gore-y had statistically significant Donkeycrat voter registration leads. That is no longer true. The GOP has made stunning gains in a number of states, and unlike the Donkeycrats stolen South Dakota Senate seat, they didn't register illegal aliens, dead people or the group of Indians on the reservation mulitple times to do it.

In Minnesota, for example, Democrats used to enjoy a 31-26 advantage in party identification. Now, it's 31-28 in favor of Republicans. In 2000, Bush lost the state by about 58,000 votes out of 2.4 million cast.

In Michigan, Democrats used to enjoy a 33-26 advantage. Now it's 31-29 in favor of Republicans. In 2000, Bush lost the state by about 217,000 votes out of 4.2 million cast.

In Iowa, Democrats used to enjoy a 32-27 advantage. Now, it's 34-27 in favor of the Republicans. In 2000, Bush lost the state by about 4,000 votes out of 1.3 million cast.

In Wisconsin, Democrats used to enjoy a 33-29 advantage. Now, it's 30-29 in favor of the Republicans. In 2000, Bush lost by about 6,000 votes out of 2.6 million cast.

I don't believe Dr Dean will win any of those states this November. He is too much of a leftist wing nut, he'll be scaring the hell outa the soccer moms on matters of national security.

In one state that Bush barely won a similar thing happened.

In Florida, Democrats used to enjoy a 38-33 advantage. Now, it's 37-36 in favor of Republicans. That means Bush might be able to build on his 537-vote victory.

In some other states that Bush lost narrowly, Democrats maintain their edge — just less so.

Take New Mexico, Democrats used to enjoy a 40-30 advantage. Now, it's 39-35. In 2000, Bush lost by just 366 votes.

Why is this occuring and what is the trend?

"As the Democrat party gets smaller, it becomes more liberal, elitist, and angry, and as it becomes more liberal, elitist, and angry, it gets smaller."
-Republican National Committee chief Ed Gillespie

So, the best thing the Donkeycrats could do for America is go on an ideological jihad, nominate Dr Dean, and tear themselves up fighting over ideological in order to purify themselves and drive out the less ideolgically committed/extreme.

Go ahead, call Bush a Nazi. Concoct conspiracy theories claiming he "knew" about 9/11 in advance. Point at Karl Rove and Haliburton as the twin nexii of evil in the modern world. It's 1972 baby and the Donkeycrats are setting themselves up to crash and burn.

John's prediction: Bush wins 45 states.

You can make your predictions here:

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/PE2004/CAMPAIGN/pred04.php

There is a cool map and you can create yourself a little user account. Mine is Johnb, you can see my map and my comments. Enjoy!

Brent
01-13-2004, 12:21 PM
John, your California prediction surprises me.

johnb
01-13-2004, 01:54 PM
Brent,

Don't be so surprised. California is one state (New Mexico, Wisconsin, South Dakota, Illinois, etc...) where the Donkeycrats retained power through massive vote fraud. Rigged ballot boxes, illegal aliens voting, multiple voting at different precincts, etc...

Improvements in voting machine technology makes this more difficult. Certainly above and beyond the intellectual capabilities of the average JackAssOcrat.

Given the power of the recall and the images burned into the minds of Californians now Bush has an incredible opportunity. The little Donkeys were burned by the recall. The past few years in California revealed them and their policies to be bad for the state. Now, the mass of voters in California were not dumb enough to leave a quasi-socialist, anti-business governor in place nor to replace Davis with someone as hostile and hateful towards capital. Frankly, I would have liked seeing California commit economic suicide, NC could have picked up some transplant businesses.

They can't be complete boobs, they know what doesn't work, meaning they might be receptive to alternatives. Besides, Dean is an uptight New England freakshow, I don't believe he will resonate with California voters.

johnb
01-13-2004, 05:37 PM
John's US Senate Analysis


Current Donkeycrat seats being flipped Republican:

Zell Miller Georgia
Fritz Hollings South Carolina
John Edwards North Carolina
Bob Graham Florida
John Breaux Louisiana

These five you can bank on. NONE will be held by a Donkeycrat after the next election. Flatout, they lose these seats.

Donkeycrat seats in danger:

Russ Feingold Wisconsin
Tom Daschle South Dakota
Barbara Boxer California
Byron Dorgan North Dakota

Boxer is only in danger *IF* the GOP gets a name, Dennis Miller, for instance, to run against her. A debate between Dennis Miller and Barbara "almost the dumbest person on the planet" Boxer would be high comedy. Feingold is probably safe. Daschle however is going to need a lot of fake votes from those Indian reservations to keep his seat. That election should be lost but the little Donkeys will commit the vote fraud necessary to keep Daschle in the Senate. They did it in South Dakota last election cycle to keep Tim Johnson in the Senate. They'll do it again.

Republican seats flipping Donkeycrat:

Peter Fitzgerald Illinois

No other GOP Senate seat will flip to the little Donkeys.

The GOP will pick up five seats minimum, possibly nine. Given they are set to loose the Illinois seat they'll go from 51 seats to 55 minimum, up to a max of 59. The stronger Bush runs the closer they get to 59. We'll see. The little Donkeys running the DNC may not allow Dr Dean to be the nominee if these races shape up so lopsidedly against them.

They'll also gain half dozen seats in the US House.

dhyatt
01-13-2004, 10:27 PM
John, your California prediction surprises me.
The following came out after John posted his prediction 8-O

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004
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<font face=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif color=#000000 size=+2>Poll: Bush beats Dean in California</font>
<font face=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif color=#000000 size=+1>President pulls over 50% of vote in hypothetical contest</font>
<font size=-1>Posted: January 13, 2004 5:00 p.m. Eastern</font>
©2004 WorldNetDaily.com

President Bush, who soundly lost California and its 54 electoral votes to Al Gore in 2000, would win a hypothetical matchup with Democrat Howard Dean in the Golden State, a new poll reveals.

The survey, conducted by Probolsky Research (http://www.probolskyresearch.com/), finds Bush winning a majority of votes, or 50.9 percent. Dean garnered 35.4 percent, while 3.7 percent of respondents would choose a candidate other than Bush or Dean. Ten percent said they were not sure.

Bush does better with men than women voters, with 55.3 percent of those polled choosing to re-elect the president. Dean took in 33 percent of the men surveyed. Of the women polled, Bush received 46.8 percent of the vote, while Dean was favored by 38.5 percent.

Conducted in both English and Spanish, the poll included the responses of 625 Californians and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Gore beat Bush in California in 2000, 53.5 percent to 41.7 percent. The state's party registration favors Democrats, who make up 43.6 percent of voters compared to 35.3 percent who are Republicans. Sixteen percent of voters in California decline to state a party affiliation.

Wuptdo
01-13-2004, 11:42 PM
Mr. John,
Would like to get your thoughts on the 1960 election. A few years ago sitting in a NC State PolSci class, I put forth the claim, that if Nixon had put up half a stink that Gore did in 2000, he would of been President. The basis of my claim (don't have access to the data now) was voter fraud in several big East Cities and Mayor Daly's Chicago, and massive voter fraud in rural Texas (Mr. Johnson's doing). Now having one of my famous senior moments.

Thanks,

Wuptdo (trying to understand the "big" picture)
:oops:

johnb
01-14-2004, 08:00 AM
Mr Hyatt,

See, not even California voters are THAT stupid. Now the voters of Vermont, Mass, Rhode Island, et al however, ARE that stupid and then some.

johnb
01-14-2004, 08:09 AM
-Would like to get your thoughts on the 1960 election.

Nixon won the election, if the standard is the winner is the one who receives the electoral votes of given state when that candidate receives the most votes in that state.

There is one state in particular that caused Kennedy to be crowned President, that being Illinois. Old man Kennedy, the Jew hating - Nazi sympathizing former Ambassador to England who made his millions as a Prohibition era gangster, told JFK to not 'Buy one vote more than you need' with regards to Illinois. Evidently old man Daley exacted a rather dear and precious price.

-A few years ago sitting in a NC State PolSci class, I put forth the claim,
-that if Nixon had put up half a stink that Gore did in 2000, he would of
-been President.

You are wrong. You assume that Richard Daley would have been shamed by revelations that his Donkeycrat party falsified elections and subverted representative democracy. I can assure you he would not have been.

-The basis of my claim (don't have access to the data now) was voter
-fraud in several big East Cities and Mayor Daly's Chicago, and massive
-voter fraud in rural Texas (Mr. Johnson's doing).

Every election in Chicago is an exercise in massive voter fraud. That is why I think having a drivers license/voter id card that can be machine read is the only way to eliminate vote fraud in places like Chicago.

My mother was Democratic precinct committee woman in a city bordering Chicago when I was in high school. The level of patronage and corruption, up to and including murder, was phenominal. Organized crime, the trade unions, and the Donkeycrats had an iron triangle of sleaze that holds munincipal goverments there hostage.

johnb
01-14-2004, 11:50 AM
Don't be surprised, by the way, when Tom Daschle looses in November. I was not aware, until reading the following, that South Dakota had reformed it's election laws to require voters to provide a photo id at the polls in order to vote. Combine that with improvements to the voter database and it will weed out a lot of the fraudulent absentee ballots. The reason Donkeycrats love the absentee ballots is that in years past they were an easy way to contaminate and control elections. With technological improvements AND prosecutions of election fraud that will wither. Fair elections means the Donkeycrats will loose MORE races.

http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/january/0113_sd_senate.shtml
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South Dakota Senate Race Off to Explosive Start
By Jeff Gannon
Talon News
January 13, 2004

(Talon News) -- Sparks began to fly shortly after former Rep. John Thune (R-SD) announced his intention to challenge Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) in November. But it wasn't the candidates or their staffers taking shots at each other.

Thune didn't even mention his opponent's name in a recent speech at a Sioux Falls restaurant. Daschle's statement on Thune's long-anticipated entry into the race was equally civil. Media figures, however, have tapped into the acrimony that has continued to simmer since the contentious 2002 election between Thune and Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD).

South Dakota's largest newspaper, the Sioux Falls Argus Leader, ran an editorial last week urging both sides to "keep the Senate election clean," but conceded in an article two days later that "analysts expect the nastiest ever South Dakota campaign". Ironically, the Argus Leader itself was chastised in 1990 by the New York Times and The Hill, a Washington, DC-based political newspaper, for its "vituperative" attacks against Republican incumbent Sen. Larry Pressler (R-SD).

In the wake of last year's Jayson Blair scandal, the Argus Leader's chief political reporter, David Kranz, was forced to admit a relationship with Daschle that stretched back over 35 years to their time together at South Dakota State where they staged a mock Democrat convention in 1968.

The fireworks began last Tuesday on CNN's "Crossfire," where syndicated columnist and co-host Robert Novak claimed, "In 2002, Thune would have been elected to the state's other Senate seat, but the election was stolen by stuffing ballot boxes on Indian reservations. Now, Tom Daschle may have to pay for that theft."

His statement touched off denunciations and demands for an apology from members of both parties in South Dakota.

The Thune campaign quickly distanced itself from the controversy in a statement from manager Dick Wadhams that said, "Robert Novak's comments were inappropriate and certainly do not reflect John Thune's commitment to work hard for the Native American vote in 2004... The accusation overall is just off the mark."

Thune decided not to challenge his 524-vote loss in 2002, even though there was evidence of irregularities, in order to avoid the kind of controversy generated by Novak's remarks. Following his lead, Republican leaders and elected officials uniformly proclaimed the election results as legitimate.

Novak defended his remarks on CNN's "Capitol Gang," saying, "I don't have any bias against Native Americans or anybody else, but I do feel, based on my reporting, that there were very serious voting irregularities in 2002 in South Dakota -- I still believe that -- which the Republican Party, for political purposes, did not want to protest."

Frank LaMere, treasurer of the Four Directions political action committee, wrote, "Indian people did not stuff ballot boxes on Indian reservations and to even hint at that is insensitive and irresponsible at best and blatantly racist at worst."

His comments encapsulate the "third-rail" nature of Native American issues in South Dakota politics.

Lower Brule Sioux Tribe Chairman Mike Jandreau was quoted as calling the accusations "outrageous, offensive and factually wrong," but the facts surrounding the 2002 election cast doubt that it was free of fraud. In July 2003, Lyle Nichols entered into an agreement to plead guilty to felony possession of a forged instrument for the 252 voter registration cards he admitted were completed by his friends using names found in a telephone directory. The United Sioux Tribes hired him while he was on work release from Pennington County Jail and paid $3 per voter registration card.

The forgery trial of Rebecca Red Earth-Villeda begins on February 9. The Native American woman, also known as Maka Duta, was hired in 2002 by the state Democrat Party to register voters. She faces eight counts of forgery for fraudulent voter registration applications she submitted to county officials.

Originally, 277 of 381 interviewed by the state Division of Criminal Investigation said their signatures were forged on election documents, but Rebecca Red Earth-Villeda was charged with only 19 counts. That number was further reduced because several people changed their stories.

On October 28, 2002, Rebecca Red Earth-Villeda issued a press release in which she explained her registration and absentee ballot efforts were "our Native American attempt to get on a level political playing field with our anglo conquerors, usurpers of our ancestral lands and culture, and our oppressors."

Nichols and Red Earth-Villeda are the only ones to be prosecuted for voter fraud, but South Dakota Secretary of State Chris Nelson believes there were others who have never been caught.

"There was information that was clearly fraudulent, but they could never track it back to where it came from. Somebody was trying to register illegally. That's pretty clear," Nelson told the Rapid City (SD) Journal last Thursday.

Nelson added, "There were voter registration cards submitted that I don't think can necessarily be tracked back to either of those two individuals, [Nichols and Red Earth-Villeda]."

Some of those incidents included 200 applications for absentee ballots received in the mail in a single day from the Buffalo County town of Ft. Thompson, population 1,375.

In Shannon County, 1,100 new voter registration cards were received in a county with only 10,000 people.

The Wall Street Journal reported an election clerk as saying, "Many were clearly signed by the same person... Some registrants actually live in neighboring Nebraska."

One woman, Denise Red Horse, submitted forms for absentee ballots in both Dewey and Ziebach Counties twenty days after she had been killed in a car accident. The Wall Street Journal reported that the Dewey County Auditor explained that the documents came in an envelope of 350 absentee ballot applications postmarked from the Sioux Falls office of the Democrat Party.

Two Republican women in Fall River County discovered that their names had been forged on registration cards that reregistered them at the other end of the state as Democrats.

On Election Day 2002, the Democrat Party employed an extensive voter-hauling operation conducted from inside numerous polling places. Prospective voters were given flyers during their ride to the polls stating "Don't be Intimidated" and claiming the "Republican Party does not want Native people to vote." There were reports that individuals were offered $10 upon their return from voting.

Polls were ordered to remain open for an extra hour in the heavily Democrat Todd County after a complaint from Democrat lawyers about the time zone. Every other county conducted a 12-hour voting period, except for Todd, which allowed voters to cast ballots for an unprecedented 13 hours.

More absentee ballot forgeries became evident when voters in Dewey and Moody Counties came to the polls and were told they had requested absentee ballots. A woman who voted on the Crow Creek Reservation received absentee ballots in the mail that showed she had been registered as a Democrat even though she is a Republican.

Daschle spokesman Dan Pfeiffer was recently quoted as saying, "The false allegations and efforts to intimidate voters on the reservations were a very dark moment in South Dakota politics."

Yet it was Republican poll watchers who complained of intimidation from Democrat operatives. An elderly poll watcher in Charles Mix County reported being harassed throughout the day by a Minneapolis lawyer brought in by Democrats. In Todd County, it was reported that a Democrat election official "harassed Republican voters, exclaiming that 'Republican' was a questionable voter registration."

As a result of the election problems, a new state law will require voters to produce photo identification at polling places. Nelson expressed optimism for the upcoming election when pointed out that the new federal Help America Vote Act put in place new procedures to verify the identities of newly registered voters.

"Every one is being checked against a number of data bases to make sure we've got real, live human beings registered to vote and they are not under felony convictions," Nelson said.

Other measures being considered include increased penalties for fraud, a ban on bounties for voter registration and absentee ballots, and a ban on out-of-state poll watchers.

Copyright © 2004 Talon News -- All rights reserved.

johnb
01-14-2004, 11:59 AM
By the way all.....yesterday I wrote:

The little Donkeys running the DNC may not allow Dr Dean to be the nominee if these races shape up so lopsidedly against them.


I am feeling like Nostrafriggindamus.....Dean will be their nominee, however, the party apparatchniks will not like this. There will be more than a few surprises between now and their convention this summer. Clinton brought Clark into the race because, well, Clinton is above and beyond all else a VERY effective politician. He knows Dean simply cannot win. He also knows that Dean is such an extremist that he will cause a tremendous amount of collateral damage to the party. With Dean at the top of the ticket the GOP doesn't have to put money or effort into races such as the Southern Senate races. They become blowouts. The GOP can put money and talent into South Dakota, Nevada, North Dakota, Arkansas, et al and while they may not take all of them, they will cause the Donkeys to have to defend supposedly "safe" seats, putting them at further risk. The net result is Erskine Bowles ain't gonna be the US Senator from NC. Now or ever.

Wuptdo
01-14-2004, 12:58 PM
Mr. John,
Thank you for your input on Nixon-Kennedy 1960.

Another issue: My sister lives in Boca Raton, Fl and kept me filled in on what was happening down there during the 2000 election. She got a part time job as a "hole-counter" during the recount. However, what she was really po'd about after the election was over was this. As many as 500 people in her county voted in two states (Florida & New York/New Jersey region). The number down in Metro Dade (Miami) was even higher. Several Questions: 1) Is it legal to vote in two states?; 2) if it is illegal to vote in multiple states', who's jurisdiction is violated; 3) is not there a Federal law against this as well?

Wuptdo

In this country, the vote is not the bottom line--the bottom line is.
Richard M. Gross (1998)

johnb
01-14-2004, 02:01 PM
Of course it is illegal and in Federal elections it is explicitly crimminalized. I left Florida long before I was eligible to vote so I don't know what state law there may say about state elections. However, if someone is voting in NY or NJ I am certain that Florida crimminalizes their voting in FLA as well.

However, if the District Attorney is a Donkeycrat they won't be prosecuted.

johnb
01-14-2004, 06:52 PM
Just a note on how the left reflexively hates Bush....

On a poll about Bush's plans for NASA and a moon colony, when half the poll sample was asked about a "Bush administration" plan to expand space exploration instead of the "United States" plan, opposition increased. Just over half of Democrats' opposed the plan by "the United States." Once it was identified as a "Bush administration" plan, Democrats opposed it by a 2-to-1 margin.

They reflexively are against anything that has Bush's name attached to it. Much like Mark, our beloved Cary Liberal, there is nothing Bush can do they will approve of short of his dropping dead.

johnb
01-15-2004, 12:33 AM
2 quick comments....did anyone catch Dr Dean's comments this past week referring to Hamas terrorists as "soldiers" and his comment calling for the US to be "evenhanded", ie, place Israel and the PLO on the same ethical plane? Gotta love moral equivalence from a leftist wing nut.

I wonder how the only adult running for the Donkeycrat nomination, Joe Lieberman, will manage to gag out an endorsement of Dr Dean later this spring? Dean is comparing the ONLY functional democracy in the middle east with a gang of Islamofascist terrorists. Great. I wonder how Dean's pro-terrorist stance will play in Jewish precincts of New York and Florida?

Oh, did anyone see the news flash? Carol "Da Ho dat got jiggy wid da dictator o Nigeria" Mosely Braun is quitting and endorsing Dr Dean. Dean gets endorsed by that ho, that loser in Plains, Georiga, and probably by Yassir Arafat and his Jew murdering homicide bombers before too much longer. What a cast of fruits, flakes, and freaks, the Donkeycrat Party! :grin:

Wuptdo
01-16-2004, 12:38 AM
President Bush having a nightmare:

It is summer of 2004 and the DNC is in it's forth day of it's convention. There is still no chosen winner. Alliances have been made and the delegates are split between three choices: Dean + Braun, Kerry + Edwards, and Libermann + Gephart. The rest have of stepped aside or ran out of money. It's after 11 pm and the delegates have been at it all day. They need to choose a canidate - now. No one camp is giving in. There have actually been fist fights on the floor and very foul verbal exchanges . It's the first time in 30 years that people are actually watching the convention. It's like watching a WWF match and the audience gets to participate. It is also very hot as the AC broke down earlier that day. Jesse Jackson steps up to the podium and gets heckel'd and has chairs thrown at him. "Why can't people just get along?" The riot police are called in to bring peace, however, since all the delegates are needed, nobody is arrested (just cuffed). 200 cases of budwiser are pass around the delegates. Barbra Streisand gets in front of the delegates and starts singing her favorite show tunes. After about 30 minutes a bunch of Hollywood elites show up and beginning singing "We are the World."

The lights go out. After a moment a spotlight is shinning on the podium. The whole convention center is silent. William Jefferson Clinton steps into the light. He gives probably his best speech ever. "We must be one voice, we must put are differences aside and be united behind one candidate.........(it goes on for 10 minutes)." He steps out of the light. Sen. Hillary Clinton then steps into the light. The delegates go wild. The cheers go on for 20 minutes. Sen. Clinton starts banging on the graval till they stop. She says "I promised the State of New York I would not run for higher office, however, given the circumstances, if so nominated, I would accept your nominatation to be your canidate for President. General Clark has agreed to be my vice-president." The delegates go nuts for another 20 minutes. Terry McAlfie acknowledges Sen. Kerry over the noise. Sen. Kerry nominates Sen. Clinton for President and Sen. Liberman 2nds the nomination. (Kerry gets first Supreme Court seat, Liberman get Sec. of State, Gephart gets Sec. of Defense and Edwards gets to be AG -- everybody has a price) Sen. Kerry and Sen. Liberman tell their delegates to vote for Sen. Clinton. Most of delegates switch over and about a 1/3 of Dean's delegates switch sides as well. Sen. Hillary Rodom Clinton is the Democratic nominee for President. 8-O

President Bush wakes up in cold sweats.

It's been a long time since we had a "darkhorse."

Wuptdo

Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on (offices), a rottenness begins in his conduct.
Thomas Jefferson (1799)

johnb
01-16-2004, 08:58 AM
Hillary would go down to defeat as decisively as Dean. She is too polarizing a figure to EVER rise above her base of rabid supporters. For that "strategery" to work the little Donkeys would have to have a saviour/candidate with no baggage.

Bill Clinton pushed Wes Clark into this race too soon. He should have held Clark back until the convention....just start a whispering campaign for him in advance. Then that strategy would have worked.

The problem for the Clintons is simply. Dean hates them. Dean's supporters hate them. They are like Mark, our beloved Cary Liberal, he'd vote for Clinton instead of Dole or a Clinton instead of a Bush. But those like him aren't going to actively campaign for, donate money to, or convince those they know to vote for a Clinton.

Aside from that, the jiggy ho, Braun, was never in this to be President or vice President. She needs a job. Ambassadors pull down a few ducats here and there. She has no constituency to "bring" to the table/polls. Dennis the Menace and the Race Hustler Sharpton are no different, except that Sharpton can command a race riot almost at will.

Those three are joke candidates, nothing more. Wes Clark is Bill Clinton's candidate. Lieberman is fooling himself as is little Johnny Edwards. Gephardt is the kept woman for the industrial trades unions. None of them have any other resonance or constituency.

The only candidates that matter are Kerry and Dean. The insurgent leftist true believer with his anti-capitalist, envirofascist supporters on the one hand and the blue blooded Boston patrician representing the DNC apparatchniks on the other. Those are the two that all the others are or were running against. The Donkeycrats are not a political party unified around any common set of shared values or interests. It is an aggregation of extremists and causes, some complementary, some contradictory. That is why this convention has the potential to be a riot in so many ways.

johnb
01-20-2004, 08:30 AM
Gephardt drops out.

Kerry wins big.

Dean finishes third.

The media believed too much of their own hype again.

Dean's supporters should show up in better numbers for a primary. He missed the obvious. His supporters are dipsh*ts, they aren't going to sit through a 3 hour caucus. They're too 'ANGRY'(tm) for that. They need a process as thoughtless as they are.

After New Hampshire Lieberman drops out.

johnb
01-20-2004, 03:49 PM
Clearly, the dumbest statement of this political season was made yesterday:

McAuliffe Says Democrats Are In The Best Shape They've Ever Been
Tue Jan 20 2004 10:39:37 ET

DNC Chairman Terry McAuliffe asked on CNN if the direction of the Democratic Party will determine the direction of the party.

McAuliffe said: "Clearly, whoever the nominee of the Democratic Party will -- and I am -- no one in America wants a nominee more than I do. We're in the best shape we've ever been in. Millions in the bank, new headquarters, new voter files. I need a nominee, no question about it. But that nominee will then have one message. He will become the messenger, and it's his message that won the primaries.
"And that will become the message as we head forth March 10 all the way to November 2. That will give us six months. My job is to make sure that we're unified, we have money in the bank like we've never had before. And come the morning of March 10, we're off as one organized, energized and ready to go."

END

Excuse me, the "best shape we've ever been in."??? If he *REALLY* believes that then Mr McAwful is, clearly, one of the 3 dumbest people on the planet. The other two are running for the Donkeycrat nomination for President, or were running I should say.

Brent
01-20-2004, 08:29 PM
Gephardt drops out.

Kerry wins big.

Dean finishes third.

The media believed too much of their own hype again.

Unfortunately, Pretty Boy Johnny inexplicably slipped into second. But because he has no real substance, that probably will just muck up the works even more over the long term. This one may not be decided until summer. Which is understandable, given the crop of losers to choose from.

johnb
01-21-2004, 08:56 AM
I wouldn't worry about little Johnny Edwards. He's going nowhere.

The DNC establishment has their candidate with Kerry. The Kennedy's and most New England politicians are backing him. That is the home base for the Donkeycrat Party, their only regional power base. That region will control who gets the Donkeycrat nomination IMO.

Edwards thinks the Southern states will propel him to victory. No Donkeycrat nominee is going to carry any of the states of the South from Virginia to Texas, Oklahoma to Florida and Kentucky to Louisiana. The New Englanders know that, they also know their ONLY hope is a candidate that all of New England, with the exception of New Hampshire, will rally around along with the upper midwest and the Pacific coast states.

Will the states the Donkeycrats can legitimately claim to be competitive in this fall be receptive to Edwards over Kerry? I doubt it. The DNC is increasingly leftist, increasingly doctrinaire, and otherwise shrinking. They have no room for a conservative Southerner.

But....they're not asking me for political advice.... :lol:

johnb
01-22-2004, 11:44 AM
In todays Washington Times:


Edwards, who speaks in southern cadences, told an audience in Greenville, S.C., that he is the candidate who can beat President Bush in every region of the country. He drew applause when he said the key to victory was "talking like this, in the south."

Hours later, at a small New England diner, he broadened that appeal when one voter asked how he could fulfill his legislative agenda with a GOP-controlled Congress.

Edwards responded by stressing the importance of increasing Democratic strength in Congress. He added that the key to that is prevailing in swing seats such as the one held by retiring Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, a conservative Democrat.

"The question is who on the top of the Democratic ticket can go every place in America and campaign with the candidates and strengthen their ability to get elected. And who will make it more difficult for them to get elected?" Edwards said.

"So if you're a Democrat running in a tight race ... in Georgia, do you want John Edwards campaigning with you? Do you want Howard Dean campaigning with you? Do you want John Kerry campaigning with you?

"I mean it gets to be a fairly basic question ... and I will let you make your own judgment."

Kerry, asked in a televised interview about Edwards' remarks, dismissed them.

"Well Max Cleland is on my side and I think will testify" that he can win in the South. "I look forward to campaigning in Georgia or in South Carolina and I think the team that I have down south there is terrific," he said.

Cleland is a triple amputee as a result of Vietnam War injuries. He served one term in the Senate before losing his seat to a Republican in 2002

Cleland was an incumbent who got thrown out of office in an off year election. Kerry points to HIM as proof that he (Kerry) can win in the South? The Donkeycrats could very easily nominate a moron to be their candidate for president. Edwards won't get it, he comes from a region where the Donkeycrats are increasingly weak and irrelevant. Kerry comes from the Donkeycrats only regional stronghold. He is strong where they are strong. Notice how many of the Donkeycrats candidates came from that area: Kerry, Dean, Lieberman, Sharpton. Toss in the Rust belt candidates: Gephardt, Kucinich, Braun. All thats left is Clark (Clinton's stand in) and Edwards. The Breck girl will not be president.