Add another money-loser to the list...

[Brent]

This Thursday's Council agenda includes an item for the Town to take over SK8 Cary (the skate park on Maynard), with a result that the Town apparently will lose more money on this operation than we currently do. Just the latest in the list of money-losing ventures.

Also on this Thursday's Council agenda, we finally get to see the interlocal agreement proposal for taking over the SAS Soccer Park, which as projected, should cost us "no more than" $300,000 per year (Cary and Wake Co. shares; it's all our tax money). Coincidentally, we could have kept our elementary SROs for about that amount.

I hadn't been aware until now that "fiscal responsibility" means bailing out money-losing ventures with taxpayer $. Well, even though the kids won't have cops in their elementary schools, they will be able to play subsidized tennis and soccer and skateboarding, I guess. :roll:

[Brent]

Oh, and don't forget that they'll be able to play in the water squirters at Ritter Park, too! Hallelujah!

[Karen]

This Thursday's Council agenda includes an item for the Town to take over SK8 Cary (the skate park on Maynard), with a result that the Town apparently will lose more money on this operation than we currently do. Just the latest in the list of money-losing ventures.

You have got to be kidding me... :roll:

Karen

[johnb]

We deserve it too. If you voted for JULIEFORCARY! Ernie McMayor, Shoeboy, the RINO, the Soccer Mommy or our boy Jack you deserve to get screwed.

You also deserve the Aquatics Palace McMayor, the RINO, et al are insisting we build and then for all practical purposes give to the Cary Swim Club/Triangle Swim Club.

The screams you hear are your wallets being raped.

[Brent]

Gee, John, a lot of people probably voted for at least one of these folks (but I doubt that anyone voted for all of them, at least recently, since some are district representatives).

Did you vote for any of them?

[Cathy]

Prepare yourselves for higher taxes in Cary folks!
Just to pay for all of those park amenities.

Since I'm helping to pay for the SAS Soccer Park fiasco, do I get a discount now on non-resident fees for Cary "amenities"??

According to the Tischler Report for Cary, the Town needed to charge more development fees for two things specifically:

PARKS and more fire stations.

And the Fire Dept. was the only sector that came to the Budget Work Session with ZERO capital requests!

Marla and Julie were the most upset about cutting money for more parks.
No one ran against Marla the last time so you have her for a while.
Some of the other spendthrifts could go sooner though.

Cathy

[Wuptdo]

Cathy wrote:


And the Fire Dept. was the only sector that came to the Budget Work Session with ZERO capital requests!


As I recall being a one of the budget work sessions the "Chief" did mention a new firehouse down the pike and a desire for a helicopter.

Also Cathy included:


No one ran against Marla the last time so you have her for a while

This is one reason why I want Dutchman's downs annexed into Cary. To see Marla and Ron H. run against each other for the council seat. :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

[johnb]

Brent,

Guilty as charged. I said at the time that at least had experience in the business world where JULIEFORCARY! was uniquely incapable of relating too business owners, people that work in the private sector, and anyone else who is not taking handouts from a government entity or non-profit.

I voted for McMayor under the apparently mistaken assumption that at worst he'd not be as bad for the city's budget as JULIEFORCARY! was promising to be. With every declaration of support for the Aquatics Palace, more Inconsequential Public Art, and other such fiscal schemes he proves me wrong, in spades.

[Lisa]

Hey Newbies!

You know where all this started don't you?! (:|

When the town handed a little place call Kids Together Playground and a candidate running for Cary Town Council named Marla Dorrel a $-) Million $$ to break ground on the lovely park. Now that goes back to the days of good old Koka Booth.

I can personally say that I was not for the Skate Park, and warned that this would happen, but then again what do I know, I am just another dumb blonde. They handed Skate8Cary and Liza Weidle, a Glen Lang Lackey another $-) Million $$ to break ground.

Now we have a handicap kids park that is hardly used, which the Gangs like to tag all the time and a skate park that according to the serious skaters is so bad it is not worth asking their parents to drive them to it or paying the membership fee + fee to get in the place.

And why do you think JULIEFORCARY pushes the art stuff, mostly because people like Ken and I criticized her for not having any connections to community organizations and *-:) ! There she goes and joins the Cary Art League. All her friends are on the Cary Art League and whether you like it or not she is going to shove art down our throats.

Next special project you, see how much fun you can have playing connect the dots! B-)

When will this town going elect people who know that you represent the citizens not your friends? Oops not again, another blonde thought....

I agree with John, my disappointment with the ones I thought would be able to make headway and truly be able to make a change should really go do something else. Whether it was good or bad at least we saw more change and movement with Glen Lang than we will ever see in this town’s future. #-o

Good luck to anyone running for town council, you are going to need it to straighten this mess up!
:wink: :))

[kellyc]

You still cant get past the bitterness can you. Man..I cant help but wonder how many years to your life you could take off..if you would just simply get past the bitterness. Sheeshhhhhh.

[Lisa]

Sweet, innocent, naive Kelly,

There is no bitterness here.

I suggest you run for office and have the Mayor and town employees use maneuvers to lose your job, candidates that spread lies and rumors to ruin your business and reputation, and steal your name and id and create fake accounts and send vicious letter and threats to the public, and spend a few $1,000 dollars in attorney bills to defend yourself from these accusations that are then mysteriously dropped and disappear as fast as they appeared. Have people that don’t even know you, never met you come up to your face and call you names that you would never ever consider using on another individual.

To tell you the truth, I have settled those feelings with the appropriate individuals and have moved on. You apparently are an individual that loves to have an opinion without any facts or knowledge of who I am or what I have been through. That is your right and maybe some day you realize that not everyone has the same kind of life as yourself.

My only temp here is to show the facts, and history in which some people do not know about, and it is people like you that are typical of a large percentage of Cary. They don't want to hear the facts, if it disturbs their world. I have said it once and I will say it again, if someone has a drinking problem, they won't quit unless they look at the facts and admit they have a problem. Most people in Cary rather sweep things under the table or rug, because it is an embarrassment to their image in society.

Good luck with anything you do, but I suggest before you form an opinion, you walked in another's shoes and get the facts straight.

God Bless!
:D

[hollyL]

I suggest you run for office and have the Mayor and town employees use maneuvers to lose your job, candidates that spread lies and rumors to ruin your business and reputation, and steal your name and id and create fake accounts and send vicious letter and threats to the public, and spend a few $1,000 dollars in attorney bills to defend yourself from these accusations that are then mysteriously dropped and disappear as fast as they appeared. Have people that don’t even know you, never met you come up to your face and call you names that you would never ever consider using on another individual.

*getting out my broom to sweep out from under the table* I'm apparently one of these people as I don't know this story. What's this about? And if it happened (not questioning truth of your statement at all) why are you paying the attorney bills? Sounds at the least like slander...


Skateboarding is not a crime!

[kellyc]

Sweet, innocent, naive Kelly,

There is no bitterness here.

I suggest you run for office and have the Mayor and town employees use maneuvers to lose your job, candidates that spread lies and rumors to ruin your business and reputation, and steal your name and id and create fake accounts and send vicious letter and threats to the public, and spend a few $1,000 dollars in attorney bills to defend yourself from these accusations that are then mysteriously dropped and disappear as fast as they appeared. Have people that don’t even know you, never met you come up to your face and call you names that you would never ever consider using on another individual.

To tell you the truth, I have settled those feelings with the appropriate individuals and have moved on. You apparently are an individual that loves to have an opinion without any facts or knowledge of who I am or what I have been through. That is your right and maybe some day you realize that not everyone has the same kind of life as yourself.

My only temp here is to show the facts, and history in which some people do not know about, and it is people like you that are typical of a large percentage of Cary. They don't want to hear the facts, if it disturbs their world. I have said it once and I will say it again, if someone has a drinking problem, they won't quit unless they look at the facts and admit they have a problem. Most people in Cary rather sweep things under the table or rug, because it is an embarrassment to their image in society.

Good luck with anything you do, but I suggest before you form an opinion, you walked in another's shoes and get the facts straight.

God Bless!
:D

I think you just proved my point. I also think if I was so unhappy with the folks in Cary I would move. I just asked all my coworkers if the had ever heard of you. They looked at me like I was nuts. Point being..move to Fuquay or Holly Springs. I doubt anyone knows who you are or your past there....that way you can start a new! Get out of the past, get past the bitterness....do something about it instead of crying woe is me.


Kelly

[Wuptdo]

Lisa wrote:


Sweet, innocent, naive Kelly

Lisa, I quess you haven't seen Kelly's website. Check out the pictures of Kelly and her machine gun. :)

http://www.allkelly.com/

Lisa - sorry about you being burned by the Cary "Power Elites." In Cary, there are only winners (aka pondscum) and victims (aka taxpayers). It is just another example how American society is slowly eroding away in the pursuit of money.

Wuptdo B-)

[kellyc]

Lisa wrote:


Sweet, innocent, naive Kelly

Lisa, I quess you haven't seen Kelly's website. Check out the pictures of Kelly and her machine gun. :)

http://www.allkelly.com/

Lisa - sorry about you being burned by the Cary "Power Elites." In Cary, there are only winners (aka pondscum) and victims (aka taxpayers). It is just another example how American society is slowly eroding away in the pursuit of money.

Wuptdo B-)

I disagree with you there Wup. I dont see Cary as having only winners and victims....Cary is not that bad of a place to live. Its actually a really good place to live. Maybe I am naive.

Kelly

[hollyL]

I think you just proved my point. I also think if I was so unhappy with the folks in Cary I would move. I just asked all my coworkers if the had ever heard of you. They looked at me like I was nuts. Point being..move to Fuquay or Holly Springs. I doubt anyone knows who you are or your past there....that way you can start a new! Get out of the past, get past the bitterness....do something about it instead of crying woe is me.Kelly

This "if you don't like it move" is something I have heard from just one person directed at me with regards to the sign ordinance. "If you don't like the sign laws in Cary then move to Chapel Hill". I don't think this is the right answer to solving people's concerns about *OUR* community. The answer isn't for all of us complainers to pack and move. This is American for Christ's sake...we shouldn't have to move away from somewhere because we are being wronged or persecuted. To the contrary, we should stay right where we are until things are changed. What kind of service is it to ourselves and our community to tell people who have been wronged (if in fact she has...I don't know at this point) to leave and find somewhere else to live instead of changing what caused the wrong in the first place?

Heck, I wouldn't have the money to pack up and move if I wanted too! Few people (at least in NC at large) have the ability to just pick up move to find a "better" place to live. Poor people shouldn't live in cary anyways I suppose though <said sooooo sarcastically>.

I agree that just complaining isn't effective either. If something is wrong complaining isn't going to make it right only taking appropriate action will change things. I definitely agree with you on that aspect.

[Lisa]

Kelly, poor upset little one,


I just asked all my coworkers if the had ever heard of you. They looked at me like I was nuts

Bingo - people don't care to find out nor do they want to find out. Sorry, after walking over 1,000 miles during my campaign and knocking on quite a few doors, yes, some people were not home. Does it matter whether some Cary resident knows me? No and get real, there is over 100,000 people in Cary, so if 5 people don't know who I am, big whoopee.

Self-worth is how and what you do as action, not how many people know you.


Point being..move to Fuquay or Holly Springs. I doubt anyone knows who you are or your past there....that way you can start a new!

Talk about bitter. Apparently it is you who doesn't like people that disrupt your world or don't agree with you. You rather they just move away and get out of your sight. Start new? Why start new? My life here is just fine, thank you. I have a support circle of friends, co-workers and a network of national local businesses and governments that support what I do for breast cancer and juveniles. It is not about where you live, it is about is what you are doing is helping people, if that is your goal in life. A lot of people on this site seem to share that goal. The solid community people are talking about how they want to change laws and create programs. They want to make sure that justice is done for the people that can not take care of themselves, not sending nasty love notes.


Get out of the past, get past the bitterness....do something about it instead of crying woe is me.

People share information in order to provide information for an opinion, decision or to take action to correct a wrong (or what they feel is a wrong). Point in fact, if a woman is raped and the rapist isn’t caught, by that statement, that person should just “Get out of the past, get past the bitterness....do something about it instead of crying woe is me.” I think you need to be careful about making sweeping statement because you may not be making a correct statement on how you really feel, but then again I could be wrong and you might. Truth is sometimes hidden within the words.

I have always believed and still strongly believe, what you put out there, God will send back to you two-fold and I will tell you by experience that is ever so true.

Last time I look this was a democracy, not a dictatorship and in time, the people you support will be voted out of office and the new ones come in and then do something that you don’t like and there will be a few people doing exactly what you are doing. Don, Stan and some of the others knows this too well from the pervious site and politics. The people don’t change, just the names.

See Kelly, it is not all that bad, you created a whole new string of topics. :wink:

Thanks everyone!

[kellyc]

I agree that just complaining isn't effective either. If something is wrong complaining isn't going to make it right only taking appropriate action will change things. I definitely agree with you on that aspect.

After 5 years of complaining about the same thing...over and over and over again...its like either do something about it, or get over it. Look at what you accomplished in just a few short weeks about a sign ordinance.

Kelly

[kellyc]

Lisa you dont get my point. If those people dont know who you are, then obviously your reputation is not that bad. If you think you could better server the community you should run. People can look past stuff if your ideas are sound. Look at how many people have looked past Bill Clinton's bad judgement.

Kelly

[hollyL]

...I'm going to shut up until I figure out what this is exactly about cuz I think I'm missing some key info here.

[hollyL]

Lisa you dont get my point. If those people dont know who you are, then obviously your reputation is not that bad. Kelly

If it matters...I don't know who she is either :-D

[Don]

Thanks all - needed a laugh - LOOONNNGGGGG day.