Voter Fraud in NC?

[Wuptdo]

Came across this in the N&O this AM. Very interesting:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1536605p-7716254c.html


Here is their website (maybe we should have a link :wink: ).

http://www.ncpirg.org/

The question is - who is paying for this group and who do they represent?

Wuptdo B-)

[kellyc]

If you look at their annual report...slim as it is....It appears to be just a block of people. It is intresting about the voting fraud. Sad and intresting at the same time.

[Cathy]

http://www.techcentralstation.com/030303C.html

Public Shakedown Artist

By Radley Balko Published 03/03/2003

Big business never pays a nickel in taxes, according to Ralph Nader, who represents a big consumer organization that never pays a nickel in taxes."

- Dave Barry

Crystal Lewis hadn't the slightest idea what "MOPIRG" was. Each semester, she says, the mysterious phrase was listed on her tuition bill at Meramac Community College in St. Louis, Missouri, and each semester the school billed her six dollars. Then she read the fine print. "If you opt not to support MOPIRG, please deduct this amount from your payment," it said.

But her tuition bill gave no explanation of what exactly MOPIRG was.

In researching this piece, I got similar reactions from students at colleges across the country. PennPIRG, MASSPIRG, and CALPIRG - students in Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Colorado and California had been paying small fees to all of these groups, and almost none of the students knew at first what it was they were paying for.

If you're putting a kid or two through college, or putting yourself through, there's a good chance you're donating to a PIRG, too.

And Ralph Nader would like to thank you for your support.
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The Daily Campus and College Publisher

Opinion: PIRG does not have strong support it claims
By Sean Williams
Published: Tuesday, April 8, 2003

Recently, my friend from the left, Mike Spangenberg, in his weekly column, took the time to endorse Neil Roach for Undergraduate Student Government President, the Twins to beat the Yankees in the World Series and PIRG for continued student funding. There is not enough room in this column to thoroughly cover all of these issues, so today's topic will be PIRG.

You have to give credit to UConn's chapter of the Public Interest Research Group (PIRG). These people are shrewd not because of their political beliefs but because they are able to raise thousands of dollars every year on the backs of UConn students in order to fund their propaganda machine, and many of them have no idea where their money is going. If you dislike being duped then please, read on.

Link -> PIRG doesn't have strong support it cliams (http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2B921219)

RENT TO OWN ONLINE

Ralph Nader, the energizer bunny of activism and a man who has never produced anything in his life except a failed presidential bid and a bad hairdo, is the founder of PIRG
PIRG's primary means of funding comes from so called 'student fees'. A practice closely resembling extortion...
Some states (Wisconsin is among them...surprise, surprise) go so far as to require PIRG donations from every college student.


In a recent article for Fox News, Craig Rucker, executive director for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, estimated that Nader's causes take in somewhere between $10 and $20 million annually from college students, most all of it unwittingly.

Source: Fox News
...What's remarkable is the blatant, transparent hypocrisy the PIRGS use to defend their tactics. The USPIRG Web site claims that mandatory student fees earmarked for liberal activism are "protected by the First Amendment," and are intended to "foster a marketplace of ideas."

http://www.rtoonline.com/Content/Article/Apr03/PIRG_KnowThyEnemy040203.asp
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http://www.cei.org/gencon/003,02595.cfm

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15329

[johnb]

Why would anyone be surprised?

The left/Donkeycrats pulled this stuff on a mass scale in Wisconsin, New Mexico, and Oregon in 2000. It was quite disturbing. Because of Florida the Bush administration didn't push to investigate/prosecute but appears to ceded to the Donkeys the PR battlefield in this matter.

Voters should be required, by Federal law, to show up in person and present a picture ID at the polls in order to vote in a Federal election. That would stop a lot of this nonsense. Accountability, transparency, and honesty in the election process would cost the Donkeycrats many elective offices they now hold through outright ballot box fraud.

[Wuptdo]

Thanks Cathy - Learn something new everyday here at CP. I will have to check in and see if any of my ($400 plus) student fees are going to this organization.

JohnB - Bullseye!

Wuptdo B-)

[Brent]

Voters should be required, by Federal law, to show up in person and present a picture ID at the polls in order to vote in a Federal election.

I agree, except I would replace "a Federal" with "any". This should be required for all elections. I don't place the blame on or cast the benefit toward either party. I am astounded that NC does not take this simple step toward election integrity.

BTW, I believe that Darryl wrote a letter to the editor of the Sunday N&O making this same point.

[johnb]

Brent,

I'm not a GOP'er but I do blame the Donkeys as the primary culprits. Mainly because they are.

The jokes about vote fraud in Chicago, NYC, and other Donkeycrat machine towns are so prolific because the reality of the situation makes a mockery of the election process.

When John Kennedy's father told him not buy one vote more than was necessary from Mayor Daley he pretty much iced that cake. The Donkeys stole the 1960 election, everyone knew it but tried *real hard* to forget it in the wake of the "Camelot" mythology created after his assasination.

They have a track record that includes stealing presidential elections. What more needs to be said other than to note that what made them so angry in 2000 was that the Supreme Court stepped in and stopped them from stealing yet another election.