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Wuptdo
03-27-2008, 11:46 PM
A second republikan for the 4th district seat.

Ausustus Cho for Congress (http://www.choforcongress.com/)


Our current Congressman is out of touch with this District, and seems to care more about voting with his party's leadership than his district.

Amen, Rep. David "for sale at any" Price, has been out of touch for years.

:brave:

DarylB
03-28-2008, 07:54 AM
A second republikan for the 4th district seat.

Ausustus Cho for Congress (http://www.choforcongress.com/)


Our current Congressman is out of touch with this District, and seems to care more about voting with his party's leadership than his district.

Amen, Rep. David "for sale at any" Price, has been out of touch for years.

:brave:

Perhaps the congressman could use some Google map directions from the Birkenstock counter in Carrboro, to Cary, NC?

Wuptdo
03-28-2008, 11:26 AM
Sorry Darylb, but it looks like Rep. David "for sale at any" Price chauffeur did know the way to Cary, as by this recent article:

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1014640.html


Price: Breathe easier on earmarks

Ryan Teague Beckwith, Staff Writer

CARY - U.S. Rep. David Price says earmarks have gotten a bad rap.

In a speech before the Cary Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday, the Chapel Hill Democrat said the recent debate over congressional earmarks has blown them out of proportion.

Price said the total amount of money spent on earmarked projects is about 1 percent of the federal budget. The bigger problems with spending are the Iraq war, Medicare and Social Security, he said.

A professor of political science, Price argued that the U.S. Constitution clearly gives Congress "the power of the purse," including the right to direct spending. He cited several local projects, including a Cary water reclamation facility, that were needed. (move above)

"Earmarks, we don't need no stink'in Earmarks!"

No what we need is a real Congressmen that will actually bring home the ever so sweet, federal pork dollars. It would be nice to see North Carolina on the PLUS side of Federal Revenue spending for a change. Any CP'ers there?

DarylB
03-28-2008, 01:14 PM
Sorry Darylb, but it looks like Rep. David "for sale at any" Price chauffeur did know the way to Cary, as by this recent article:

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1014640.html

Did he need a visa?


Price: Breathe easier on earmarks

Ryan Teague Beckwith, Staff Writer

CARY - U.S. Rep. David Price says earmarks have gotten a bad rap.

In a speech before the Cary Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday, the Chapel Hill Democrat said the recent debate over congressional earmarks has blown them out of proportion.

Price said the total amount of money spent on earmarked projects is about 1 percent of the federal budget. The bigger problems with spending are the Iraq war, Medicare and Social Security, he said.

A professor of political science, Price argued that the U.S. Constitution clearly gives Congress "the power of the purse," including the right to direct spending. He cited several local projects, including a Cary water reclamation facility, that were needed. (move above)


"Earmarks, we don't need no stink'in Earmarks!"

No what we need is a real Congressmen that will actually bring home the ever so sweet, federal pork dollars. It would be nice to see North Carolina on the PLUS side of Federal Revenue spending for a change. Any CP'ers there?

I just read an article the other day, and the quote was that we have now reached 53 Trillion dollars of national debt, which comes out to be $440,000 per household. So guess what, that is going to come home to roost, someday. And the government method of handling such a huge debt is going to be to print that money, devaluing the currency. That is going to be a trainwreck, and Mr Congressman "At Any" Price is telling us to "Breathe easier" about it? I think even a "fiscal conservative" like Stan is going to be stunned when that s**t hits the fan.

So no, I'm in TOTAL disagreement with needing a "real congressman that will actually bring home the ever so sweet, federal pork dollars". What we need are a few statesmen that recognize that the American economy is what makes and keeps us a free country (or at least did), and we do NOT need to be treated like kids in a candy store. I have zero respect for the job our current crop of children on Capitol Hill are doing with budgets and spending. It's destroying our country, a few billion wasted dollars at a time . Shameful, simply shameful.

MattD
03-28-2008, 03:44 PM
I just read an article the other day, and the quote was that we have now reached 53 Trillion dollars of national debt, which comes out to be $440,000 per household. So guess what, that is going to come home to roost, someday. And the government method of handling such a huge debt is going to be to print that money, devaluing the currency. That is going to be a trainwreck, and Mr Congressman "At Any" Price is telling us to "Breathe easier" about it? I think even a "fiscal conservative" like Stan is going to be stunned when that s**t hits the fan.


DB - I hope you don't believe everything you read -but that would explain a lot ;-) - but we have not reached 53 trillion dollars in debt.... it's actually around 9 trillion.

Sadly, it's the neo-cons that have really done the most financial damage to our country. President Reagan really started the massive debt and President G.W. Bush has taken it to extremes.

DarylB
03-29-2008, 12:18 AM
I just read an article the other day, and the quote was that we have now reached 53 Trillion dollars of national debt, which comes out to be $440,000 per household. So guess what, that is going to come home to roost, someday. And the government method of handling such a huge debt is going to be to print that money, devaluing the currency. That is going to be a trainwreck, and Mr Congressman "At Any" Price is telling us to "Breathe easier" about it? I think even a "fiscal conservative" like Stan is going to be stunned when that s**t hits the fan.


DB - I hope you don't believe everything you read -but that would explain a lot ;-) - but we have not reached 53 trillion dollars in debt.... it's actually around 9 trillion.

Sadly, it's the neo-cons that have really done the most financial damage to our country. President Reagan really started the massive debt and President G.W. Bush has taken it to extremes.

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/USDebt_files/image003.jpg

My numbers were wrong, and yours are right... Gee, the 9 trillion dollar figure sure makes me sleep better at night..NOT!

As for your assertions about neo-con responsibility for the national debt, I'll let the chart above tell the real story...in actuality, it's not been pretty for ANYONE in EITHER party... it really is more of "intelligent discussion" than just "they're all bad, and we're all good". If we can't get past the fact that waste is waste, and we all get the opportunity to "take it in the shorts" from those who don't give a **** about anything but getting re-elected, we're toast.

MattD
03-29-2008, 11:09 AM
As for your assertions about neo-con responsibility for the national debt, I'll let the chart above tell the real story...in actuality, it's not been pretty for ANYONE in EITHER party... it really is more of "intelligent discussion" than just "they're all bad, and we're all good". If we can't get past the fact that waste is waste, and we all get the opportunity to "take it in the shorts" from those who don't give a **** about anything but getting re-elected, we're toast.

DB - I was going to post a chart showing the rising debt during each Presidency... but instead, I agree with you that waste is waste and it is crushing our economy.

I forgot what % of our taxes go to just pay off the interest on our national debt, but I think it's in the mid to upper teens. Imagine, even 15% of our taxes - poof - gone just to pay interest.

DarylB
03-29-2008, 11:21 AM
As for your assertions about neo-con responsibility for the national debt, I'll let the chart above tell the real story...in actuality, it's not been pretty for ANYONE in EITHER party... it really is more of "intelligent discussion" than just "they're all bad, and we're all good". If we can't get past the fact that waste is waste, and we all get the opportunity to "take it in the shorts" from those who don't give a **** about anything but getting re-elected, we're toast.

DB - I was going to post a chart showing the rising debt during each Presidency... but instead, I agree with you that waste is waste and it is crushing our economy.

I forgot what % of our taxes go to just pay off the interest on our national debt, but I think it's in the mid to upper teens. Imagine, even 15% of our taxes - poof - gone just to pay interest.


I'd like to think we're a nation of smart, responsible people. And there have been plenty of times when I've been on the same page with Wup about issues. But his reply on this one really distressed me, largely because I think it typifies our attitudes about spending and the national debt. Many of us (and Wup among them) have a complete and clear understanding that "bringing home the pork" is killing our economy, but still insist that OUR congressmen get "our fair share". David Price, who was elected to be a leader, tells us to "breathe easier" about earmarks. The process of divide and conquer, and taking each of us as suckers is the obvious cause of the problem. When we have people running for office that pledge to spend foolishly "for us", se should tar and feather the *******s. Instead, we agrandize these morons for their largesse. WHY? Are we really the dipwads they think we are, whose votes are up for sale due to their obscene spending, or do we care enough to say no, andd to send the scalpers packing? So far, the morons are winning. What will it take to turn this corner, and begin to turn them out on a national acale as we work to take our country back from economic collapse? Or is it too much to ask?

Cathy
04-13-2008, 11:24 PM
Darylb,

The 9 trillion is for immediate debt. The number you had sounds like the total if you add in the committed unfunded mandates that the budget is facing.


On October 20, 2005, the on-budget debt of the United States Government went over $8 trillion. This is an increase of well over $2 trillion since January, 2001.

In 2007, it went over $9 trillion.

In addition, the total unfunded government debt, which includes Social Security, Medicare, and Federal pensions (off-budget), is approaching $72 trillion.
http://www.garynorth.com/public/department79.cfm

If you are worried about continued bloated spending by the government, you might want to check out where Augustus Cho stands on the National Debt:
Durham AIR Debate - Federal Deficit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcBLUatNADk)

He said WHAT???...

"being a debtor nation is good because the nations you owe money to won't attack you..."
????????????

Icorpse
04-14-2008, 12:41 PM
Once upon a time we had a chance to pay down our debts, strengthen the federally funded programs and in general, promote progressive values and ideas in the US. That seems like a distant dream now. Thank you Mr. President and fellow elected members of our great nation. Our prosperity is being pissed away as we speak.

However, I do think what Dr. Price meant to say is that we have bigger problems on our hands now than earmarks. I have met him personally, and I did come across with the impression that he generally gives a crap about his constituents.