If you were John McCain

[MattD]

Unless there is some type of external factor (i.e. terrorist attack), it appears John McCain will not win the election. After Joe the Plumber, calling Obama a socialist etc, what would you do next if you were John McCain? What would you do these last few days to try and sway the voters?

I would hit hard on the need to have a checks and balance system. I would show the voters what happened when Dems were in control from 1992-1994 and what happened when Reps were in control from 2000 to 2006. Show the importance and need of checks and balance.

[DarylB]

In case the American people have forgotten, and for those who didn't get the nightmarish experience firsthand.....


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/30/timestopics/topics_carter_190.jpg

My response to Obama?

Been there, done that...
NEVER AGAIN!!!
No second term for CARTER!

You might see Jimmy Carter's head on a plate, but never will you find it on Mt Rushmore....


Unless there is some type of external factor (i.e. terrorist attack)....
..in which case people would be rushing to John McCain for a response they know they can count on to keep us and our Constitution safe and secure, while Obama's election gets us the "Joe Biden" response - 'I told you he couldn't handle it, if you remember nothing else I'm telling you' ..... and if a few thousand Americans end up dead because of Obama's being "tested", that's just so much more wealth available for him to redistribute!

[JoeCiulla]

Unless there is some type of external factor (i.e. terrorist attack), it appears John McCain will not win the election. After Joe the Plumber, calling Obama a socialist etc, what would you do next if you were John McCain? What would you do these last few days to try and sway the voters?

I would hit hard on the need to have a checks and balance system. I would show the voters what happened when Dems were in control from 1992-1994 and what happened when Reps were in control from 2000 to 2006. Show the importance and need of checks and balance.

Matt,
I don't know how well they can politically spin this, but agree 100%. Our government seems to function best when party power is split between President and Congress.

[Dharma]

I guess it suits your agenda to continually compare Obama with Carter but there is one other Democratic president you seem to keep omitting from your argument....

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i175/onedharma/bill.jpg

[DarylB]

I guess it suits your agenda to continually compare Obama with Carter but there is one other Democratic president you seem to keep omitting from your argument....

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i175/onedharma/bill.jpg

I guess you're about to swoon again, so let me clarify the air with some facts.....although the better comparison still remains to Carter I ....


New Deal - Toward a Soviet America


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A Red New Deal with a Soviet seal
Endorsed by a Moscow hand,
The strange result of an alien cult
In a liberty loving land.

"The tone and tendency of liberalism...is to attack the institutions of the country under the name of reform and to make war on the manners and customs (and freedom) of the people under the pretext of progress." --Disraeli, "Speech in London"

1933 FDR became the 32nd President of the United States. He had sent William Bullitt to the USSR even during the campaign to arrange its recognition while Stalin was killing 10 million Ukrainians. FDR imposed central planning through New Deal, a.k.a. Raw Deal, regulations and programs. His close advisor Douglas said "The present pseudo-planned economy leads relentlessly into the complete autocracy and tyranny of the Collectivist State." FDR broke every campaign promise he had made and the New Deal was exactly the opposite of what he had promised. FDR had promised "I propose to you that the government, big and little, be made solvent and that the example be set by the President of the United States and his cabinet...Stop the deficits! Stop the deficits!" FDR made a flat promise to "reduce the cost of government operations 25 percent" and called for a sound gold currency (!). Instead, Franklin Deficit Roosevelt engaged in an orgy of spending and implemented the first twelve planks of the Socialist Party platform, (http://www.conservativebeacon.com/essays/Socialism/socialist_platform.html) which in substance was the New Deal. In his first year he proposed spending 10 billion on 3 billion of revenues; from 1933 to 1936 government expenditures went up more than 83 percent. He closed all banks with no intention or thought of ever re-opening them (banks are not needed in Marxist economics). After two years the New Deal was such a failure through waste, mismanagement and outright graft that FDR had to introduce a "New New Deal." The ND has been called 'a study in economic confusion.' FDR undermined the Constitution with blank-check appropriations which allowed him to control spending and blank-check legislation which allowed him to set up agencies to pass laws and regulations. "There is in Chicago and in a very large part of the country, more suffering than there was in 1933 when the President came into office. It is a common sight to see children salvaging food from garbage cans." Grace Abbott to the DNC. Labor leader John L. Lewis told the NAACP in 1940 that "Mr. Roosevelt made depression and unemployment a chronic fact in American life." Herbert Hoover, 1928 Democrat Presidential Nominee Alfred E. Smith, and the 1924 Democrat Presidential Nominee John Davis all called the New Deal communistic. Admitting the failure of the New Deal, FDR said in October of 1937, "I'm sick and tired of being told by the cabinet, by Henry (Treasury Secretary Morganthau) and everybody else what's the matter with the country and nobody suggests what I should do." Gottfried Haberler, Professor of Economics at Harvard and President of the American Economic Association and the world's leading authority on depressions, called the failure of the New Deal a policy disaster "unparalleled in other countries." Winston Churchill said in 1937: "The Washington administration has waged so ruthless a war on private enterprise that the US...is actually...leading the world back into the trough of depression." The New Deal was repudiated by the voters in 1938 and the Republicans took effective control of Congress. FDR made the depression worse and prolonged it, including the FDR recessions of 1937 and 1939. When he was elected there were 11,586,000 unemployed and in 1939 - seven years later- there were still 11,369,000 unemployed. In 1932 there were 16,620,000 on relief and in 1939 - after seven years - there were 19,648,000 on relief. The war eventually ended it. FDR supporter Merle Thorpe wrote in 1935, "We have given legislative status, either in whole or in part, to eight of the ten points of the Communist Manifesto of 1848; and, as some point out, done (sic) a better job of implementation than Russia." Religious leader Colonel Eugene N. Sanctuary's pamphlet Is the New Deal Communist? made a 35 point comparison of it to Marx's 1848 program.





Every choice made in the New Deal, whether it was one that moved recovery or not, was a choice unerringly true to the essential design of totalitarian government -
To extend the power of executive government, to rule by decrees and rules and regulations of its own making; between 1933 and 1943 FDR issued 3,556 Executive orders
To strengthen its hold on the economic life of the nation;
To extend power over the individual - the domestication of individuality;
To degrade the parliamentary principle;
To impair the independent Constitutional judicial power;
To weaken all other powers - private enterprise and finance, state and local government.
It is almost amusing that FDR built a cult of personality just as Hitler and Stalin did - it is necessary in a tyranny because in rule by men, loyalty is not to law or country but to a person. Power then depends on such a cult.
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But keep in mind, people remember Jimmy Carter, and he is reviled by a huge percentage of the population for what he did to our economy. If John McCain is serious about winning, he needs to make that connection, because the two are amazingly close on their "Changes".

[Dharma]

Do you come up with this horsesh*t all on your own or do you cut and paste from McCarthyism101 website?

[DarylB]

Do you come up with this horsesh*t all on your own or do you cut and paste from McCarthyism101 website?

You're the one with the "Messiah", so why don't you part the waters for us?

[chaboard]

Unless there is some type of external factor (i.e. terrorist attack), it appears John McCain will not win the election. After Joe the Plumber, calling Obama a socialist etc, what would you do next if you were John McCain? What would you do these last few days to try and sway the voters?


I heard somewhere recently that Walter Mondale asked for advice a few weeks before the 1984 election on how to run the rest of the way....and was told, in essence, "It's over....just run a race your grandkids can be proud of in the future".

Let's just say that McCain has already missed THAT boat, too.

I think this race is over and there is quite literally nothing McCain can do at this point. It was always going to be difficult for him with Bush around his neck and running against the strongest candidate of my lifetime. But he had at least a small shot until he committed campaign suicide. Twice!

Selecting Palin and "suspending" his campaign were the two stupidest political stunts in modern Presidential history and - combined with getting waxed in all four debates - absolutely guaranteed him a loss.



I would hit hard on the need to have a checks and balance system. I would show the voters what happened when Dems were in control from 1992-1994 and what happened when Reps were in control from 2000 to 2006. Show the importance and need of checks and balance.

Too late......that argument needs more time to sink in.

Plus....the REST of the GOP is already cutting HIM loose. Specifically, apparently, Dole (http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_and_congressional_repub.php)



"If Hagan wins," the ad says, "they get a blank check." This, of course, seems to presume an Obama victory.

As one Democrat joked to us: ""Republicans launch new campaign theme: All the rest of us are gonna lose, so elect me."

[MattD]

I think this race is over and there is quite literally nothing McCain can do at this point.
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I agree that there is nothing McCain can do to win this election. That's why I said it's going to take an external factor for him to win.

The fat lady isn't singing yet... but she is warming up and ready to come on stage.

[Laurie]

McCain: Obama says 'anything to get elected'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27336640/

Oh, come on. McCain is the one who will say anything to get elected. Doesn't he see that he is eroding in just a few months the respect that he has taken all these years to build up?

[Belle]

McCain: Obama says 'anything to get elected'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27336640/

Oh, come on. McCain is the one who will say anything to get elected. Doesn't he see that he is eroding in just a few months the respect that he has taken all these years to build up?

You mean the respect of all the moderates like Powell who have jumped for an unvetted candidate that has earned no respect in the first place?

[Dharma]

McCain: Obama says 'anything to get elected'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27336640/

Oh, come on. McCain is the one who will say anything to get elected. Doesn't he see that he is eroding in just a few months the respect that he has taken all these years to build up?

You mean the respect of all the moderates like Powell who have jumped for an unvetted candidate that has earned no respect in the first place?

Oh, I think he has earned respect and is earning more each day from people who really know what's going on the world like Powell, former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, the Goldwater Family, Christopher Buckley..and people who have experience in the White House like Scott McClellan. I think they know more than the simple-minded masses who are voting for party and skin color.

Frankly, I can't see why you would vote for another Bush and a freeloader who doesn't know much of anything. Oh wait. She can see Alaska from her house! :-)

More Republicans Jump Ship (http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/24/more-republicans-jump-ship-weld-mcclellan-support-obama/)

[Wuptdo]

If I were John McAmnesty, I would be thanking my Lord for real Americans like this:

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[francejamie]

If I were John McAmnesty, I would be thanking my Lord for real Americans like this:

Our Country Deserves Better, PAC (http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/)

I think we've heard just about enough of this crap! We are all "real Americans" regardles off our political affiliation or what side we lean to.

[chaboard]

I think we've heard just about enough of this crap! We are all "real Americans" regardles off our political affiliation or what side we lean to.

Amen.

[chaboard]

what would you do next if you were John McCain? What would you do these last few days to try and sway the voters?

I would hit hard on the need to have a checks and balance system.

Worth mentioning that this very idea came up on MTP yesterday and Charlie Cook made the interesting point that polling directly on the general support level for "divided government" was at an all-time low. People really WANT change and they know they won't get it with a divided government.....