Council Weenies

[Anonymous]

Why are they being such weenies about annexation? All these people living on the borders of our town, reaping the benefits of the town's hardworking tax payers. They complain that their free-ride is coming to an end. Our council and town staff backed off like a bunch of weenies.

[dhyatt]

I deleted my first post on the subject because I suspected the original poster was just looking to stir up trouble. But after thinking about for awhile, I've decided he/she may have a point. Since Cary's most recent ETJ request looks like it will get tabled, what is Cary's plan at this point? Have they backed off the annexation agenda altogether? Are they working on a comprehensive plan? Are they waiting 'til after Fall elections? If so, what then? Anybody have a clue?

[Anonymous]

I hope they have not backed off. I think these people in our ETJ know they have a good thing going and I can understand them not wanting to lose it. However as a taxpayer, I am tired of picking up their tab.

[Wuptdo]

Don wrote:

Are they waiting 'til after Fall elections?

I think you hit the nail on the head Don. However, with the "threat" of year-round schools looming large in our area, I think the council can go back to a full court press on annexation. The School Board Strikes Back! :roll:


http://www.newsobserver.com/news/sheehan/story/1663945p-7897235c.html

Here is the list of proposed new "year-round" schools:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/education/story/1667698p-7902371c.html

This should be interesting to say the least. :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

[johnb]

That' not nice guys.....why do you want to inflict our city council on other people? It's bad enough we have to suffer Shoeboy, the dim RINO, et al, with their obsession over colors, font sizes, and "public art". Misery may love company but do the content need to be made miserable?

Forget the dogs, why let the idiots out?

[Anonymous]

No they dont need to be miserable. They need to start paying their fair share. Basically they are stealing from our pockets.

[johnb]

In another circumstance I'd agree with you because ultimately your point is correct.

However, I'm not convinced the annexations aren't done solely to raise tax revenue, ie that the city plans its spending with an eye towards meeting future commitments by annexing more land. And, *IF* the city were only spending money on the necessities and fully funding those necessities as well.

Our own house is not in order, that's what makes me not want to inflict these stooges on others. When this council tries to give away, what's the latest bid?$30 million? to the Cary and Triangle swim clubs for that aquatics palace, we have issues we need to attend to ourselves. Rather than spread that misery we need to first boot these buffoons out of office.

Hell, Jack was stung on the doggie park issue last month when it came out that the city council had been conned into approving funding $40,000 to build the **** thing for the Cary Dog Club. These people didn't even know what the hell they were voting on. What gives us the ethical right to inflict this group of yahoos on residents of the unincorporated areas? They can't even manage the current budget and agenda items adequately.

[StanN]

John,

The issue on spending priorities is an important one and I hope it will be thoroughly aired in the next election.

The issue of fairness and equity in having those in the unincorporated area being subsidized by the taxpayers in Cary (and every other muni in Wake) is a totally separate issue. Any candidate for office in Cary who does not take a strong pro-annexation stand, for whatever rationalization, is not protecting the interests of Caryites. As far as I am concerned it is a real litmus test. In fact, if a candidate does not take a clear position on the issue, I will assume they are anti-annexation. The voting records of those currently in office will be tracked and recorded. An anti-annexation vote will come back to haunt them. As far as I am concerned there is little or no room for shades of gray - you are either for us or against us.

Here is a list of those against annexation and the interests of those in Cary that you have the opportunity to vote AGAINST in November's election. County Commissioner Kenn Gardner and NC Representative J. Russel Capps. For future reference, Wake Commissioners Tony Gurley and Phil Jeffries and State Senator Richard Stevens are among the supporter of anti-annexation legislation. Gardner, Jeffries and Gurley have been trying to hinder Cary's ETJ expansion and annexation efforts despite the fact that the current law is on Cary's side. There are tons of other reasons to vote against these candidates now and in the future.

The issue of spending priorities is one where everyone will form their own opinion - there is endless room for different points of view.

stan

[johnb]

Stan,

I cannot say you are wrong, because you're not, but -- and this is merely a personal observation/discomfort, I wouldn't support annexation in the current climate for the reasons I cite above. Spreading incompetance in the current climate is not going to resolve these funding discrepancies. It is merely going to spread the incompetance, giving the city council greater access to more funds they will then abuse in fiscally irresponsible ways.

The people in the ETJ would have less reason to fear annexation if the city government in Cary were not so reckless with spending on non-priority issues. So the people in the ETJ are not paying their "fair share" for roads, how is annexation going to solve that when Cary is cutting spending on roads and blowing the cash on "public art", the aquatics palace, etc....etc...? Seems to me that *IF* the city were NOT spending the money on the non-essential, non-priority items and was fully funding the basic priorities the folks in the ETJ really wouldn't have an argument to make without making themselves look cheap and petty. However, currently, they have a pretty good argument.

John

[Rono]

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[Wuptdo]

Rono wrote:

In Cary, they (but they don't admit it) annex to create divide because high taxes forces out lower incomes.


Tell me this Rono, why does Cary have two of the largest "trailer parks" in Wake County? Why did Wake County place a ban on trailer parks in the 1980's and the only ones left are "grand-fathered." No, Rono, if it was "class warfare" all the "trailer parks" in Wake County would of been gone ages ago.

N&O Wrote:

Its main street is lined with moss-draped oaks, and an old-fashioned hardware store and pharmacy are its anchor businesses. People smile and wave when they pass on the street.


Just like Cary! :D

N&O wrote:

The town, which has no employees, provides only one service: sewer.

Now this is interesting. My understanding is that all incorporated towns had to provide following per the General Statues: Building Inspections. Did something change?

Wuptdo B-)

We don't care how you did it up North! - Bumper Sticker

[StanN]

One cannot dispute that higher property taxes adversely impact those with lower incomes more than they do the more well-to-do. But that's only half of the of the economic equation. The other half, especially here in Cary, is what services the Town supplies does to the value of property and homes.

The millions that the Town is spending on ensuring that Penny Road and Kildaire Farms Road do not become overly congested adds value to Dutchman Downs. As does their proximity to the highly popular Regency Ampitheater which the rest of us subsidize. Do you think anyone from Dutchman Downs were among the thousands that attended the free Labor Day and Forth of July concrts there? Why do you think the developers in the UA advertise their proximity to Cary's parks and other amenitiies? And the increased value of the homes in Dutchman Downs can be converted into added income through refinancing of mortgages and investments.

Or how about the residents in Dutchman Downs who work in Jobs in Cary?
Other municipalities charge suburban commuters an income tax for the services they provide. Wouldn't that be fair? And when the rest of us support infrastructure and services to bring in new employers or support existing employers - does anyone in Dutchman Downs offer thanks? How many jobs are created or supported in the unincorporated area? Hundreds of us here in Cary volunteer or time, effort and expertise to make Cary a better place to work and live? Those living in Dutchman Downs benefit from that effort. Isn't it time the freeloaders in Dutchman Downs buy a round of drinks? Or how about the sheriff's patrol in the UA which taxpayers in Cary help pay for. Those living in Dutchman Downs take that all for granted. They want to keep the services which those of us in Cary pay for and not pay their fair share. And along the way they take every opportunity to slander Cary - such as the non-existent parallel to Trenton.

But Rono sees things only from a highly distorted lens where each and every action by the CTC is exaggerated and distorted to support his single politically charged point. In fact the protesters of Dutchman Downs have a lot for which they should be thankful to the Town of Cary and its taxpayers.

stan

[Rono]

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[Brent]

Its main street is lined with moss-draped oaks, and an old-fashioned hardware store and pharmacy are its anchor businesses. People smile and wave when they pass on the street.


Just like Cary! :D

No, in Trenton I hear that they wave with their entire hand. :lol:

The town, which has no employees, provides only one service: sewer.

Now this is interesting. My understanding is that all incorporated towns had to provide following per the General Statues: Building Inspections. Did something change?

This also was my understanding. Maybe they provide "sewer inspections" instead?

[Brent]

.....and pleazzzze explain what this adds to your arguement particulary when annexation like North Carolinas does not exist in 44 other states including Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia and South Carolina! (I am trying real hard to stay within topic...for now)

Wuptdo can speak for himself, but "everybody else does it" is one argument that people are making in favor of passing Amendment One...and I don't think that "everybody else does it" is a good reason for Amendment One or annexation laws.

[Rono]

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[Wuptdo]

Rono wrote:

please point them out to me)

Located about a block off the intersection of E.Chatham Street & Maynard Drive. Two "metal mansion" parks, one on each side of Maynard. If you drive through, be careful of the free-range chickens. :roll:

Rono wrote:

.....and pleazzzze explain what this adds to your arguement

It puts a little humor on the source of the your post. Based on your writings in other places, I know that you are from one of those "People's Republics" states in the upper mid-West. You expect "us" (the locals) to conform to your standards of government and democracy(socialism). What works in the "People's Republic" states doesn't mean it will work in N.C.

Anyway, I give you credit for at least "doing" something (though I don't agree with you), unlike many of my "whinee Yankee" neighbors.

Wuptdo B-)

[Rono]

Wuptdo can speak for himself, but "everybody else does it" is one argument that people are making in favor of passing Amendment One...and I don't think that "everybody else does it" is a good reason for Amendment One or annexation laws.

On this Brent, I could not agree more!

[Rono]

Anyway, I give you credit for at least "doing" something (though I don't agree with you), unlike many of my "whinee Yankee" neighbors

Thanks Wuptdo! A drink for you too! (just say when!)

[johnb]

Rono,

Since you seem to like northern approaches to this matter, let's compromise, no annexation, but the imposition of a commuter tax such as they have in NYC. Those residents of the UA who work in Cary pay some percentage income tax to the munincipality they work in if they also do not reside in that munincipality.

That would ensure that the folks in the UA are in fact paying their "fair share" just as they would if they lived in any state but Massachusetts but worked in that commonwealth.

How about it?

[Rono]

Johnb

Not knowing much about the NYC thing makes me unqualified to debate the issue.

If it is a good idea, why don't you start a movement to replace the annexation laws with it?

[Wuptdo]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

School Board (2006):

Flecther = 3354 v. Karen = 8652

Congress (13th District)

Price (D) = 13478 v. Joyce = 14575 (R) v. JohnB (L) = 28,433

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Wuptdo B-)

[Anonymous]

Brent are you moving?

[Anonymous]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

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Wuptdo B-)

Only one of those people in Red has any clue about running a town. In addition you have very little hope for your fellow Cary citizens. Not only do you have annexation down the road, but an even smaller voter turnout than ever before.

[Anonymous]

When did "Dutchman Downs" have a vote in whether or not we wanted Regency or an Aquatic's Center or Soccer Park. When did we vote for water and sewer bonds? And do you really think that our 25 plus year old homes will become more valuable because Cary is near? If so, make me an offer I can't refuse! I'd love to feel that I have such increased "value" especially with a well and septic that is, by annexation advocates statements, ready to fail any time now!

So now, not only do you NOT want to pay, but you want to VOTE on the decisions in a town that you do NOT want to pay the taxes on? What are you smoking? Yes those 25 more homes are valuable, because they are close to Cary, and not going to be part of Raleigh or Garner.

[Rono]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

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Wuptdo

Best Laugh I have had all day!!! Thanks!

Only one thing wrong, I (if annexed) would be in Jack Smiths district, of course unless you care to consider Mike Joyce or Julie Robison at Large Seats. And a question Who is StanN running against <grin>

[johnb]

For a very simple reason, in fact, the same reason the annexation laws aren't going anywhere:

1-I am personally ambivalent about it generally.

2-The legislature is so divided as to preclude any measure being taken to "solve" the matter.

The folks who are against annexation now will certainly oppose any measure to tax them for proportionally to support munincipal services in the munincipality in which they work.

The reason people move to the UA is to escape munincipal taxes in the first place. It seems to me that what the folks in the UA want is freedom from annexation and the "freedom" to avoid supporting the very infrastructure they require for their own employment. *IF* counties were made to pay for and build their own roads and pay the real cost of county schools, this would be a non issue, since that tax burden, currently subsidized by the residents of the munincipalities, would become comparatively quite high.

It strikes me that what is going on is many of the folks in the anti-annexation movement are right in not wanting to pay for a lot of the trash that Cary spends money on. But they also don't want to be bothered paying the full cost of basic government "services" either.

Keep it up and you folks are gonna hurt yourselves in the long run. The day Cary pulls out of the WCPSS and set up it's own school district County property taxes will skyrocket to make up for the loss of revenue from the higher property values in the city of Cary.

Freeloading works only as long as you don't poke the guy you're freeloading off of in the eye too often or too hard.

[Anonymous]

Keep it up and you folks are gonna hurt yourselves in the long run. The day Cary pulls out of the WCPSS and set up it's own school district County property taxes will skyrocket to make up for the loss of revenue from the higher property values in the city of Cary.

Freeloading works only as long as you don't poke the guy you're freeloading off of in the eye too often or too hard.

You tell him old man!

[Anonymous]

So now, not only do you NOT want to pay, but you want to VOTE on the decisions in a town that you do NOT want to pay the taxes on? What are you smoking? Yes those 25 more homes are valuable, because they are close to Cary, and not going to be part of Raleigh or Garner.


someone needs reading 101!

[Rono]

someone needs reading 101!

Perhaps so, but to be clear, we didn't have a vote on these things and don't want to pay for them either. No place in the post did I suggest we wanted to vote on those issues.

[Anonymous]

someone needs reading 101!

Perhaps so, but to be clear, we didn't have a vote on these things and don't want to pay for them either. No place in the post did I suggest we wanted to vote on those issues.

What I need is a lesson in the fine art of getting someone else to pick up my tab more often.

[StanN]

Rono,

So I went to you website and looked at the legislators who are supporting you. Two questions: how many will support you AFTER the election? I'll bet you are being used by at least half of the 45 that have signed on.

And what about the 123 who haven't responded. Why should they? If you were against the proposed change in the law you would have to be stupid to oppose these fanatics in public. I'll bet most of them will vote against you....stan

[Rono]

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[Brent]

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

School Board (2006):

Flecther = 3354 v. Karen = 8652

Congress (13th District)

Price (D) = 13478 v. Joyce = 14575 (R) v. JohnB (L) = 28,433

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Wuptdo B-)

Interesting. But I think you'll have to wait until 2007 for Ron, Cathy & Don H (that's when their opponents' terms end); I expect Fletcher is done w/ school board; and I wonder why there was such a low turnout for the mayoral election? :lol:

Also, Jennifer is up for re-election in 2005, but I'm in District B, not District A.

Regardless, though, I'm with Rono on this one: best laugh I've had all day! Thanks!

[Brent]

Brent are you moving?

Nope...at least not that I know of...although I've been told that I might be re-districted into District A some day (I hear that everyone is trying to make sure that I'm NOT in their district :lol: ).

[Brent]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

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Wuptdo B-)

Only one of those people in Red has any clue about running a town.

You really shouldn't insult Ron, Cathy and Don H like that. :lol: :wink:

[Rono]

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[Wuptdo]

Brent wrote:

Regardless, though, I'm with Rono on this one: best laugh I've had all day! Thanks!


Mission Accomplished! :D :D

Brent, you are correct, I didn't do my "homework" but I wrote this on the fly. However, I think I am now qualified to be reporter either for "The Daily Show" or "CBS News." :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

[Cathy]

Stan, or "guest" may be a registered Democrat, but his words speak louder than that and clearly identify him as a Socialist in ideology.
He seems to think that American citizens living outside of his "municipality of choice", Cary, shouldn't be allowed to make that choice.

Everyone in a given area should be forced to buy into whatever the largest group nearby is proposing. (who gets to decide, Stan? You?),

I didn't vote to approve those tax funded "quality of life" amenities that Cary politicians now want us to help pay for and I don't want any part of it now or in the future. Dig your own hole and live in it. I already help pay for more of it that than I care to. If you don't want me to shop at Cary businesses, and thus have to travel on Cary roads, just say so. It won't cramp my lifestyle any.

Cathy

[Rono]

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[Anonymous]

Strong and Powerful Statement! I am also glad it was NOT followed by the statement "and I also have PMS and carry a hand gun...ANY QUESTIONS!?" :D THEN I WOULD BE REALLY WORRIED! :D <GRIN>

GO GET UM GIRL!!!

My, not only are we a freeloader but a bit on the sexist side too. Hmmmmmmmm

[Rono]

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[Cathy]

He's too busy being a totally "PC" leftist socialist to let anything like that enter into his realm of thinking. He is falling down on his social responsibility to try and "truly understand" you and be "tolerant" of "diversity".

Cathy

(And it's not that time of the month,_ and I don't own a gun....yet. Just a 24 oz. framing hammer, a "Sawz-all", and a chain saw. I have fired a .38 S&W police special and knocked down quite few cans and bottles from a rail fence, though.)

[Anonymous]

My, not only are we a freeloader but a bit on the sexist side too. Hmmmmmmmm

Geezzz, can't you come up with something better than "sexist?" Hell, when I was in office some woman even called me a misogynist in a letter to the editor! (ya..... get your dictionary and look it up!)

Hey Cathy, I guess the "guest" does not realize we are good friends!

If the shoe fits.....

[Brent]

Brent, you are correct, I didn't do my "homework" but I wrote this on the fly. However, I think I am now qualified to be reporter either for "The Daily Show" or "CBS News." :wink:


Seems to me you're qualified to be anchorman on CBS News... :wink: :lol:

[Don]

Brent are you moving?

Nope...at least not that I know of...although I've been told that I might be re-districted into District A some day (I hear that everyone is trying to make sure that I'm NOT in their district :lol: ).

Now why would that be Brent??? :wink:

[Don]

Brent wrote:

Regardless, though, I'm with Rono on this one: best laugh I've had all day! Thanks!


Mission Accomplished! :D :D

Brent, you are correct, I didn't do my "homework" but I wrote this on the fly. However, I think I am now qualified to be reporter either for "The Daily Show" or "CBS News." :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

Definitely Qualified!!! :wink:

[Don]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

School Board (2006):

Flecther = 3354 v. Karen = 8652

Congress (13th District)

Price (D) = 13478 v. Joyce = 14575 (R) v. JohnB (L) = 28,433

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Wuptdo B-)

Writting me off already huh?

[Brent]

Ron,

Just wanted to let you know that I am against annexations just for annexation. It must be planned, and beneficially to all (not helter-skelter). However, my motivations for seeing Dutchman Downs (and Medfield) in Cary are a little selfish.

******In the near Future*********

Cary Town Council Results (2006):

Marla = 957 . Ron = 1683
Nels = 645 v. Cathy = 1589
Jennier = 921 v. Brent = 1755

Cary Mayor Results (2006):

Ernie = 2271 v. DonH = 3845

School Board (2006):

Flecther = 3354 v. Karen = 8652

Congress (13th District)

Price (D) = 13478 v. Joyce = 14575 (R) v. JohnB (L) = 28,433

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Wuptdo B-)

Writting me off already huh?

Oh, I am sure that Wuptdo just accidentally omitted this one:

U.S. Senate (2008):

Dole = 1, 013,478 v. Don F = 1,507,433

[johnb]

I DEMAND A RECOUNT!

[Don]

Thanks John! :wink:

[johnb]

I meant in "my" race.... 8O

I could not believe that there are 28,433 people I have not managed to insult or scare in the greater Raleigh-Durham area.

OTOH, with Price voters you know you're getting a group so afraid of self-confident leadership and decisive action that they'd wet their collective panties at the thought of the US taking ANY action against terrorists beyond begging the Islamofascists to "Please Stop!".

[Wuptdo]

DonF - sorry guy - your future happened in 2005 - let me gaze into that ball again.

**********In the Near Future (2005)*********

(Various Headlines from the "Cary News")

"Cary Dog Park Dedication"

"Jack Smith Resigns"
- Mr. Smith told reporters that with the dedication of the Cary Dog Park, he felt his job was done with the Cary Town Council. "It was my last major goal for the Town of Cary; Mission Accomplished!"

"Don Frantz to finish Councilman Smith's term"

"Frantz Accepts!"
- Councilman Nels Roseland said "Don will be big asset to the Town Council; I look forward working with him."

*********Present*********

Wuptdo B-)

[Brent]

I meant in "my" race.... 8O

I could not believe that there are 28,433 people I have not managed to insult or scare in the greater Raleigh-Durham area.

C'mon, John, now that you've been elected, you MUST serve!

After all, it's FOR THE CHILDREN! :wink: :lol:

[Karen]

Okay. My first order of business on the school board will be a lesson in spelling for everyone on Cary Politics. Get out your notebooks. We are going to learn how to spell Don F.'s last name correctly. It is F-r-a-n-t-z.

My work is done here. I resign... :-D

Karen

[johnb]

I propose a new Internet Standard.....

John's Law: He who invokes "the children" as a justification for any political activity aside from running the school system, instantly looses all credibility and as punishment has to buy all men with hair loss on CaryPolitics beer the following Friday night at Hooters in Morrisville.

[Brent]

F-R-A-N-C-E. Got it.

Thanks, Karen! :-D

[Brent]

I propose a new Internet Standard.....

John's Law: He who invokes "the children" as a justification for any political activity aside from running the school system, instantly looses all credibility and as punishment has to buy all men with hair loss on CaryPolitics beer the following Friday night at Hooters in Morrisville.

What about those of us without hair loss? After all, it's FOR THE CHIL...uh, never mind. :lol:

[Karen]

F-R-A-N-C-E. Got it.

Thanks, Karen! :-D

ARGHHHHH!!!!! And I just resigned!!!!!!!! You're on your own now Don... :lol: I tried!!!

Karen

[Brent]

Hey, Karen, can you do something about that forced year-round crap? And what about those elementary SROs?

Geesh, I sure hope you haven't already resigned. :wink: :lol:

[Karen]

Wup, I see my spelling lesson worked. Someone edited his post... :-D :-D :-D Hehehe...

Karen

[Karen]

Hey, Karen, can you do something about that forced year-round crap? And what about those elementary SROs?

Geesh, I sure hope you haven't already resigned. :wink: :lol:

I suppose I'll stay on. After all it's FOR THE CHILDREN!!! :wink:

Karen

[kellyc]

Gosh I feel left out. :( .....

[Rono]

Kelly, I'll write you in! Is the Governors office OK?

[kellyc]

...Sure...but Im thinking its time for a woman to be President. Dont think I wouldnt get this whole Iraq and Afghanistan thing fixed right away. I'd simply threaten to send John and Wup over there if they didnt shape their butts up!

[Rono]

Ok....President it is....The next question is who will be your "kick *** hottie" VP? (yes Johnb, can reopened....worms everywhere again!)

[Rono]

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[kellyc]

why but of course, CP's on Kick *** Hottie Stan!

[Rono]

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[Rono]

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[kellyc]

...and another question Kelly....would you have a "top down" economic policy to drive your political platform?

Well Im not really sure....depends I guess on who the audience is. Wow..I'd make a great democrat candidate.

[Rono]

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[kellyc]

Well Im not really sure....depends I guess on who the audience is. Wow..I'd make a great democrat candidate.

....how true...might bring a whole new meaning to the term flip-flop!

Im not sure if thats just bad, really bad, or what. :lol: 8) 8) 8)

[Wuptdo]

Kelly wrote:
Gosh I feel left out. .....
_________________
Kelly


Sorry Kelly, with your diverse background, I hadn't a cue where to place you in the political future. So.......

*******In the near Future**********

(Cary News Headlines)

Sheriff Donnie will Retire
- "As much as I love this job, it is time for this old dog to hit the porch"

Commiskey Running for Sheriff
- "I am going to kick butt, and take names!"

Commiskey Wins Sheriff's Job!
- "This will be a new day in law enforcement in Wake County."

Sheriff Wins Budget Battle
- Items won include:
1) Combines Cary Dog Park with K-9 Training Facility
2) Deputy's uniform color switched from Brown to Black
3) 6 Jeep Wranglers for rural roads (with .30 Machine Guns)
4 12 new Deputies on "bike" partrol
6) 6 new K-9 units
7) Deputy Exchange Program (International)
8a) Two new CSI units
9) Special Underwater CSI Unit
10) 60 School Resource Deputies (for all schools)
************Back to real time**********

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Kelly wrote:

I'd simply threaten to send John and Wup over there if they didnt shape their butts up!

Kelly, you just need to send JohnB. I want the U.S./Mexican Border! :wink: :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

[kellyc]

Kelly, you just need to send JohnB. I want the U.S./Mexican Border! :wink: :wink:

Wuptdo B-)

Hasta La Vista Baby!

[johnb]

I am a firm believer in the Army's unofficial motto:

Peace through superior firepower.

HomeyB would have no objection to being in a target rich environment.

[Rono]

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[kellyc]

I promise that my deputies would be the best looking deputies in the country, and that my officers would be available for wives to pass along honey to do lists as we followed our law abiding citizens home.

[Rono]

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[kellyc]

Whatever it takes to keep you criminals at bay!