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Wuptdo
02-05-2004, 02:39 AM
If I or any of my fellow students tried doing something like this at NC State or Carolina, we would be expelled so fast, it would make our heads spin. This is an interesting read.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040203-103504-2926r


It is a sore subject for me.

Wuptdo B-)

dhyatt
02-05-2004, 08:50 AM
Wup,
Great article. Unfortunately, the "indocrination" seems to be starting earlier and earlier. My son's 6th grade "World Cultures" textbook contains many examples of politically correct historical revisionism. I have had to say several times "it's not really true, but that's the answer they're looking for" and it irks me every time. (I of course explain to him why the text is misleading and/or incomplete)

The article also makes me wonder about the definition of conservative vs. liberal when it comes to very local issues like design guidelines, bike lane striping, zoning laws etc... It would very interesting to see if CP members could agree on what a "conservative" and "liberal" platform for Cary politicians would/should be.

Cathy
02-05-2004, 09:24 AM
Wup,
Great article. Unfortunately, the "indocrination" seems to be starting earlier and earlier. My son's 6th grade "World Cultures" textbook contains many examples of politically correct historical revisionism. I have had to say several times "it's not really true, but that's the answer they're looking for" and it irks me every time. (I of course explain to him why the text is misleading and/or incomplete)

The article also makes me wonder about the definition of conservative vs. liberal when it comes to very local issues like design guidelines, bike lane striping, zoning laws etc... It would very interesting to see if CP members could agree on what a "conservative" and "liberal" platform for Cary politicians would/should be.

I think a good starting place on defining "liberal" and "conservative" for our local politicians would be to base it on how tax dollars are spent and how much government intervention is needed in our decisions about personal property use.
A conservative position on services provided by government would be narrow in scope, limited to providing basic needs for safety and sanitary living. Things like water, sewer, police and fire protection, and roadway maintenance.
A liberal position would be to expand the services provided to include tax funded amenities such as tennis clubs, swim clubs, dog parks, and public art. It would also entail a stronger tendancy to dictate aesthetics such as signage, color palettes, building design, and landscape choices.
Basically it's a choice between living in a "nanny state" vs. living in a state of risk that fosters innovation and creativity.
In my opinion, the so-called "liberal" position on the role of government has turned the Webster's definition of liberal on it's head. Instead of liberal life choices, it's come to mean liberal spending and liberal use of laws to constrain behavior.

Wuptdo
02-06-2004, 10:21 PM
Miss Cathy,

Very nice post. I like your clarity on the issue of who's who. Maybe we should have an area to post definations (hint to Don). B-Z

Wuptdo B-)

Wuptdo
02-07-2004, 10:49 AM
I read this in Saturday's News & Distribur', Dennis Rogers, City&State, B1.
It's a quote of a quote from some guy on AM radio:

I'm paraphrasing here, that liberals want to control our money while conservatives want to control our sex lives.
Does no one stand for old-fashioned freedom any more?

Another aspect of the liberal vs. conservatives.

Wuptdo B-)

Cathy
02-07-2004, 08:14 PM
I read this in Saturday's News & Distribur', Dennis Rogers, City&State, B1.
It's a quote of a quote from some guy on AM radio:

I'm paraphrasing here, that liberals want to control our money while conservatives want to control our sex lives.
Does no one stand for old-fashioned freedom any more?

Another aspect of the liberal vs. conservatives.

Wuptdo B-)

EXACTLY!